Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Bicycle Mechanics
Reload this Page >

Facing a Bottom Bracket

Notices
Bicycle Mechanics Broken bottom bracket? Tacoed wheel? If you're having problems with your bicycle, or just need help fixing a flat, drop in here for the latest on bicycle mechanics & bicycle maintenance.

Facing a Bottom Bracket

Old 07-11-10 | 04:49 PM
  #1  
abarth's Avatar
Thread Starter
Я люблю суп
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,244
Likes: 3
Facing a Bottom Bracket

What method do you use to check if the bottom bracket needs to be face? Is using a caliper to measure the length at various points on the bottom bracket a good enough method?
abarth is offline  
Reply
Old 07-11-10 | 05:02 PM
  #2  
desertdork's Avatar
just pokin' along
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 1,096
Likes: 1
From: the desert
Someone around here has suggested using a feeler gauge to determine if there are uneven distances between an external BB cup and the shell.
desertdork is offline  
Reply
Old 07-11-10 | 05:35 PM
  #3  
Senior Member
Titanium Club Membership
15 Anniversary
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 39,897
Likes: 3,865
From: New Rochelle, NY

Bikes: too many bikes from 1967 10s (5x2)Frejus to a Sumitomo Ti/Chorus aluminum 10s (10x2), plus one non-susp mtn bike I use as my commuter

If the BB shell's rim has concentric tool marks made by the circular motion of a facing tool, then it's been faced and you don't need to do it again.

When I see a BB that I'm not sure needs facing, I paint it with a magic marker, or toolmakers dye, then do a light pass with a facing tool. If it removes the dye over 270 degrees, it's fine and I don't have to face. Otherwise I face until I've achieved at least 300 degrees of face, which is needed for supporting cups flat. (low spots don't count, the cup is oriented by the high points of contact, so theoretically 3 areas forming a triangle would be sufficient)

For a home mechanic, you can test by putting a thin grease film on the face or cup, and watching to see if it squeezes out evenly most of the way around. But if in doubt, a skim pass with a facer is to only definitive way to know.
__________________
FB
Chain-L site

An ounce of diagnosis is worth a pound of cure.

Just because I'm tired of arguing, doesn't mean you're right.

“One accurate measurement is worth a thousand expert opinions” - Adm Grace Murray Hopper - USN

WARNING, I'm from New York. Thin skinned people should maintain safe distance.
FBinNY is offline  
Reply
Old 07-12-10 | 06:55 AM
  #4  
Senior Member
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 7,296
Likes: 577
From: Loveland, CO

Bikes: Cervelo Rouvida x 2

Tighten the cups until they contact a .010 inch feeler gage, then use .008-.012 inch feelers to check for high or low spots. All paint should be removed from the faces of the BB shell before doing this.
DaveSSS is offline  
Reply
Old 07-12-10 | 10:48 AM
  #5  
cab horn
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 28,353
Likes: 31
From: Toronto

Bikes: 1987 Bianchi Campione

Originally Posted by FBinNY
If the BB shell's rim has concentric tool marks made by the circular motion of a facing tool, then it's been faced and you don't need to do it again.

When I see a BB that I'm not sure needs facing, I paint it with a magic marker, or toolmakers dye, then do a light pass with a facing tool. If it removes the dye over 270 degrees, it's fine and I don't have to face. Otherwise I face until I've achieved at least 300 degrees of face, which is needed for supporting cups flat. (low spots don't count, the cup is oriented by the high points of contact, so theoretically 3 areas forming a triangle would be sufficient)

For a home mechanic, you can test by putting a thin grease film on the face or cup, and watching to see if it squeezes out evenly most of the way around. But if in doubt, a skim pass with a facer is to only definitive way to know.
Originally Posted by DaveSSS
Tighten the cups until they contact a .010 inch feeler gage, then use .008-.012 inch feelers to check for high or low spots. All paint should be removed from the faces of the BB shell before doing this.
I don't agree with the 300 degrees, unless it's a typo. It's an unbroken 360 degree ring that is the proper test of complete facing. The ring does not need to be the full width of the face. 300 degrees leaves 60 degrees left of a possible

Last edited by operator; 07-12-10 at 10:52 AM.
operator is offline  
Reply
Old 07-12-10 | 10:55 AM
  #6  
cab horn
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 28,353
Likes: 31
From: Toronto

Bikes: 1987 Bianchi Campione

Originally Posted by abarth
What method do you use to check if the bottom bracket needs to be face? Is using a caliper to measure the length at various points on the bottom bracket a good enough method?
Caliper tells you nothing. With a painted BB shell it's evident either by tool marks or removal of point that facing may have been done. If there's any doubt, measure the width and face it. Severe BB shell facing errors show up in bottom brackets after installation as binding all around/unusual spots. Or a BB that spins fine until it's fully torqued.
operator is offline  
Reply
Old 07-12-10 | 12:29 PM
  #7  
JohnDThompson's Avatar
Old fart
Titanium Club Membership
20 Anniversary
Community Builder
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 26,404
Likes: 5,338
From: Appleton WI

Bikes: Several, mostly not name brands.

Paint the faces with machinist's blue and run the facer over it lightly. If the bluing is removed unevenly, it needs facing.
JohnDThompson is offline  
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
jyl
Bicycle Mechanics
8
05-20-16 08:01 PM
Frenchosa
Classic & Vintage
8
10-09-14 07:10 PM
AlanKHG
Bicycle Mechanics
20
12-20-13 07:58 PM
lineinthewater
Bicycle Mechanics
80
11-09-12 11:39 AM
MuddKatt
Bicycle Mechanics
6
04-30-12 04:35 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.