Advice on a removing crank with rounded bolt
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Advice on a removing crank with rounded bolt
I don't have an attachment to saving the crank arm, so I'm wondering if it would be easier to cut through aluminum than to try to drill out the bolt.
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If you are also not attached to the BB spindle, you could remove the other crank arm and avoid that bolt altogether.
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A picture would go a long way toward fully explaining the situation but you may be able to drill the bolt for an Easy-Out. That might be easier than cutting the crank off.
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Cartridge BB and unfortunately not a hollow spindle. Everything else on the bike has come out pretty easily. I accidently put my 15mm peanut butter wrench on the bolt before I realized that it was a 14mm bolt. Now it slips with the 14mm socket on it. I started drilling a couple of holes in from the side of the crank arm hoping that I can at least get some WD40 to the actual threads instead of just on the bolt head.
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Cartridge BB and unfortunately not a hollow spindle. Everything else on the bike has come out pretty easily. I accidently put my 15mm peanut butter wrench on the bolt before I realized that it was a 14mm bolt. Now it slips with the 14mm socket on it. I started drilling a couple of holes in from the side of the crank arm hoping that I can at least get some WD40 to the actual threads instead of just on the bolt head.
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Take a hammer and mark the center of the bolt with a punch
Drill a hole in the center
Use an extractor to remove the bolt:
Drill a hole in the center
Use an extractor to remove the bolt:
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I had a similar issue and found these locally. As long as there's enough space to fit the tool, you can get plenty of leverage on the bolt without concern over tool slippage or breakage.
https://www.mysears.com/Craftsman-Bol...er-Set-reviews
https://www.mysears.com/Craftsman-Bol...er-Set-reviews
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Ask around and see if any of your friends have a set of 'Metrinch' brand spanners.
They are unique in that they drive on the flats and not the angles of a nut or bolt, allowing you to remove rounded bolt.
Regards,
Roger
They are unique in that they drive on the flats and not the angles of a nut or bolt, allowing you to remove rounded bolt.
Regards,
Roger
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OP: We've removed cranks at the shop where the crank didn't need to be saved - 1 minute with an angle grinder on an AL crank is all that is needed to remove it.
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Works every time, I have used it numerous times especially in broken bolts to remove the rest of the bolt still inside. Well that's why it's called a SCREW/BOLT EXTRACTOR
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Extractors are good for removing broken off pieces off pieces of bolts stuck in a tapped hole for some reason, not for removing bolts with stripped heads.
My advice: Drill through the head of the bolt working your way up to a size at or near the diameter of the bolt (5/16" or 8mm) and the head will pop right off as the tension exceeds the strength left in the small amount of bolt cross section left. Don't go any deeper than necessary and you will likely salvage the bottom bracket along with the crank arm. The remaining "stud" in the BB spindle will likely unscrew by hand. Attempting to use an EZ-out on a fully tensioned bolt is a recipe for breaking an EZ-out that offers zero benefit over drilling the head off.
My advice: Drill through the head of the bolt working your way up to a size at or near the diameter of the bolt (5/16" or 8mm) and the head will pop right off as the tension exceeds the strength left in the small amount of bolt cross section left. Don't go any deeper than necessary and you will likely salvage the bottom bracket along with the crank arm. The remaining "stud" in the BB spindle will likely unscrew by hand. Attempting to use an EZ-out on a fully tensioned bolt is a recipe for breaking an EZ-out that offers zero benefit over drilling the head off.
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Either an angle grinder or what Joejack said.
I'll add to that and say if you can find left handed drill bits, use those. They work great for this kind of thing. I've used them at my buddy's shop on numerous car bolts that were stuck.
I'll add to that and say if you can find left handed drill bits, use those. They work great for this kind of thing. I've used them at my buddy's shop on numerous car bolts that were stuck.
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That is just an example.. they come in sizes for removing bolts from M4 (smallest) to M30 (this is some serious stuff!). They have tapered left hand thread that as you turn them into the loosening way it will bite into material of the bolt, wedge itself in, lock into place and for sure it will at some point turn the bolt loosening it. The size of this thing is accordingly to the size of the thread not of the head.
Works every time, I have used it numerous times especially in broken bolts to remove the rest of the bolt still inside. Well that's why it's called a SCREW/BOLT EXTRACTOR
Works every time, I have used it numerous times especially in broken bolts to remove the rest of the bolt still inside. Well that's why it's called a SCREW/BOLT EXTRACTOR
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This is what I'd do.
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Do you remember which size(s) you used? I'll have to pick some up in case I run into a similar problem some day (which with my buying habits I'm very likely to). Thanks for the tip!






