I need to find out what length spokes i need to use with the hubs and rims i have. The site i got my hubs off doesnt give any measurements of the hub. I know theres online calculators but theyre really confusing and i dont know what parts to measure on the hubs haha.

Which parts of the hub do i need to measure and which calculator is simpleto use?

Theyre 700c 27mm deep halo rims and the hub is a planet x pista front and rear hubs by the way.

Cheers

See instructions here to measure. Spoke Calc available here too.
https://sheldonbrown.com/rinard/spocalc.htm

https://www.mrrabbit.net/wheelsbyflemingapplications.php

Grab the spreadsheet.

1. Hit the "spokechart" tab.
2. Enter number of spokes per side at the top.
3. Enter the crossings at the top.
4. Just below enter the ERD of 585.
5. Scroll down until you see King Kong Label

There you'll see your numbers...

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Might be me being stupid but i cant see any halo rims on the list...

What are crossings by the way?

Try here also. https://lenni.info/edd/

radial lacing = 0 cross

most 32h and 36h wheels are built 3 cross

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I don't mean to offend you, but I'm sorta curious. Are you planning to build your own wheel? I ask because it seems you're lacking in some fundamentals.

https://www.wheelpro.co.uk/spokecalc/
Click on "help" for instructions on how to measure components.

He already has the measurements...FBinNY's point was about "other" fundamentals...such as what "crossings" are.

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No not at all. I'd just rather buy my own spokes then get a shop t build it, i'll save a lot more money this way.

Francis, he seems eager to learn, and it might work out just fine for him to start at zero and learn to build wheels.

Really can't work them programs. It would be a massive help if someone could work it out for me haha? https://www.planet-x-bikes.co.uk/i/q/...ista-track-hub

That's the hub, and the rim is a halo aerotrack 700c and is 27mm deep.

Would be a huge help so I can get my wheels built as my rims came today! Thanks

This is usually not the case but who knows? Why not ask for help from them since they have a financial interest in helping you select.

Definitely ADD impacting situational planning and expectations with a touch of contradictory statements.

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Well I got quoted £1.20 a spoke. I can buy my own for 25p each.....

Anyway, I think I know what size spokes I need. 263mm.

Could someone check this for me? I'm not here to cause arguments or troll, just wanted a bit if help.

Id punch the numbers in for you, what lacing pattern where you wanting?

I don't think helping is as much a show of ego as it is a desire to be helpful, and to encourage more interest.

https://sheldonbrown.com/wheelbuild.html

Can you buy the same quality level of spokes for that price? The answer to your question of spoke lenght depends on the number of crosses you want to build with. If you need this level of help, there is nothing wrong with paying the local bloke, who knows and can help you in a fix, the premium he needs to keep his shop open.

The guy has had 4 days to use the tools provided and to answer basic questions...

Get a clue!

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If I was going to pay someone to build my wheels, I would ask them to help select spokes so that they had a hand in selecting the proper spokes.

Likewise if someone wanted me to build a set for them, I would absolutely insist that I double check to be sure that everything would work together so my time would be not wasted during the build.

Is there some reason you can't ask the wheelbuilder for his help?

My first LBS boss was from Jamaica. Jamaica being what it is, people make do with what they have. He brought his frugality to this country.

Larry Duffus didn't have a way of calculating spoke length. He would make an educated guess, build the wheel, and see that he had guessed wrong. He'd take it apart and try the other cross pattern, 3X or 4X. He'd build again, and if that didn't work, he'd try a different length spoke. Most of the time, he guessed right.

Later, I worked in a bike shop that pretty much did things by the book. And by then, Sutherland's manual existed. We used the spoke chart therein, and we stocked pretty much every length available in most styles that DT made. Inventory management was tricky, and I shudder to think of the expense.

Lately, I've build about three wheels, and I'm back to using Larry's method. Sometimes I have the luxury of comparing old rim and new rim so I have an idea if the ERD is similar. And when it is, by eyeballing it, the wheel works out fine. Other times, I have to disassemble and reassemble. Yes, it's takes extra time, but only by about 45 minutes. This isn't my business any more; it's my hobby, and I've always found it very relaxing. I wish I had occasion to build more wheels.

Thank you! Just the regular, 3 I think?

I had to delete some rude comments - let's keep the posts civil, please.

I would go with spokes as close to 257 as you can find, but as unsure as you sound I would still go to your LBS and let them give you some advice.

Even if it were 36h and radial lacing - you would still be way to short with 257.00...

...do you even know what you are doing?

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