External BB to square taper - possible?
05-25-11 | 09:30 AM
#1
Thread Starter
Senior Member
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 591
Likes: 0
From: Honeoye Falls, NY
Bikes: Specialized Allez, Madone 5.2
External BB to square taper - possible?
Does anyone know if a bottom bracket / bearing kit exists for converting an bike that has external bearing cups (Shimano 6600 series) to an older square taper design bottom bracket?
I know this is a "backwards" conversion but I've got a old Specialized Allez frame with a square taper BB that I'm running as a single speed. It was my first bike and the shop I got it at sized me incorrectly (it's a 50 cm and I should be a 52 or 54). I also have a Trek Madone 5.2 frame (unfortunately just hanging on the wall) that is the correct size. Wondering if there is any way I can move my current crank over with a BB conversion kit rather than having to buy a crank and bearings.
Thanks in advance.
I know this is a "backwards" conversion but I've got a old Specialized Allez frame with a square taper BB that I'm running as a single speed. It was my first bike and the shop I got it at sized me incorrectly (it's a 50 cm and I should be a 52 or 54). I also have a Trek Madone 5.2 frame (unfortunately just hanging on the wall) that is the correct size. Wondering if there is any way I can move my current crank over with a BB conversion kit rather than having to buy a crank and bearings.
Thanks in advance.
05-25-11 | 09:36 AM
#2
Mad bike riding scientist
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 29,152
Likes: 6,209
From: Denver, CO
Bikes: Some silver ones, a red one, a black and orange one, and a few titanium ones
Does anyone know if a bottom bracket / bearing kit exists for converting an bike that has external bearing cups (Shimano 6600 series) to an older square taper design bottom bracket?
I know this is a "backwards" conversion but I've got a old Specialized Allez frame with a square taper BB that I'm running as a single speed. It was my first bike and the shop I got it at sized me incorrectly (it's a 50 cm and I should be a 52 or 54). I also have a Trek Madone 5.2 frame (unfortunately just hanging on the wall) that is the correct size. Wondering if there is any way I can move my current crank over with a BB conversion kit rather than having to buy a crank and bearings.
Thanks in advance.
I know this is a "backwards" conversion but I've got a old Specialized Allez frame with a square taper BB that I'm running as a single speed. It was my first bike and the shop I got it at sized me incorrectly (it's a 50 cm and I should be a 52 or 54). I also have a Trek Madone 5.2 frame (unfortunately just hanging on the wall) that is the correct size. Wondering if there is any way I can move my current crank over with a BB conversion kit rather than having to buy a crank and bearings.
Thanks in advance.
You can't use the external bearings, however. Different system, diameters and spindle length.
__________________
Stuart Black
Dreamin' of Bemidji Down the Mississippi (in part)
Plan Epsilon Around Lake Michigan in the era of Covid
Gold Fever Three days of dirt in Colorado
Pokin' around the Poconos A cold ride around Lake Erie
Dinosaurs in Colorado A mountain bike guide to the Purgatory Canyon dinosaur trackway
Solo Without Pie. The search for pie in the Midwest.
Picking the Scablands. Washington and Oregon, 2005. Pie and spiders on the Columbia River!
Stuart Black
Dreamin' of Bemidji Down the Mississippi (in part)
Plan Epsilon Around Lake Michigan in the era of Covid
Gold Fever Three days of dirt in Colorado
Pokin' around the Poconos A cold ride around Lake Erie
Dinosaurs in Colorado A mountain bike guide to the Purgatory Canyon dinosaur trackway
Solo Without Pie. The search for pie in the Midwest.
Picking the Scablands. Washington and Oregon, 2005. Pie and spiders on the Columbia River!
05-25-11 | 09:42 AM
#3
Banned
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 43,586
Likes: 1,380
From: NW,Oregon Coast
Bikes: 8
Strip the frame and start over, as said above.
Unscrew the external bearings,
they were machined to screw into BB's as they were made, right is LH thread.
you Will need special tool to grip the external bearing cup,
to unscrew them, so if there is no desire to buy that tool, to use once,
get the bike shop to use theirs.
the frame threading is unchanged, so you then install a square taper BB .
package the external bearings with the crankset they came with.
only a BB 30 set is needing a unique frame.
Unscrew the external bearings,
they were machined to screw into BB's as they were made, right is LH thread.
you Will need special tool to grip the external bearing cup,
to unscrew them, so if there is no desire to buy that tool, to use once,
get the bike shop to use theirs.
the frame threading is unchanged, so you then install a square taper BB .
package the external bearings with the crankset they came with.
only a BB 30 set is needing a unique frame.
Last edited by fietsbob; 05-25-11 at 09:49 AM.
05-25-11 | 09:55 AM
#4
Thread Starter
Senior Member
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 591
Likes: 0
From: Honeoye Falls, NY
Bikes: Specialized Allez, Madone 5.2
You just need the proper bottom bracket for the square taper. The external bearings thread into the bottom bracket shell of the bike with the same thread pitch and direction as a cassette bearing.
You can't use the external bearings, however. Different system, diameters and spindle length.
You can't use the external bearings, however. Different system, diameters and spindle length.
(just assumed some sort of backward incompatibility (e.g., external cups having external bottom bracket threading) had been designed in by the manufacturer)
05-25-11 | 10:02 AM
#5
Senior Member
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 5,559
Likes: 53
From: The 'Wack, BC, Canada
Bikes: Norco (2), Miyata, Canondale, Soma, Redline
So if I understand you correctly (I haven't looked at Madone frame in a year), the external bearing cups thread into the inside of the bottom bracket. So the square taper bottom bracket I'm currently running just needs to be removed from my Allez and should screw into the Madone frame no problem.
(just assumed some sort of backward incompatibility (e.g., external cups having external bottom bracket threading) had been designed in by the manufacturer)
(just assumed some sort of backward incompatibility (e.g., external cups having external bottom bracket threading) had been designed in by the manufacturer)
05-25-11 | 10:40 AM
#6
Mad bike riding scientist
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 29,152
Likes: 6,209
From: Denver, CO
Bikes: Some silver ones, a red one, a black and orange one, and a few titanium ones
So if I understand you correctly (I haven't looked at Madone frame in a year), the external bearing cups thread into the inside of the bottom bracket. So the square taper bottom bracket I'm currently running just needs to be removed from my Allez and should screw into the Madone frame no problem.
(just assumed some sort of backward incompatibility (e.g., external cups having external bottom bracket threading) had been designed in by the manufacturer)
(just assumed some sort of backward incompatibility (e.g., external cups having external bottom bracket threading) had been designed in by the manufacturer)
__________________
Stuart Black
Dreamin' of Bemidji Down the Mississippi (in part)
Plan Epsilon Around Lake Michigan in the era of Covid
Gold Fever Three days of dirt in Colorado
Pokin' around the Poconos A cold ride around Lake Erie
Dinosaurs in Colorado A mountain bike guide to the Purgatory Canyon dinosaur trackway
Solo Without Pie. The search for pie in the Midwest.
Picking the Scablands. Washington and Oregon, 2005. Pie and spiders on the Columbia River!
Stuart Black
Dreamin' of Bemidji Down the Mississippi (in part)
Plan Epsilon Around Lake Michigan in the era of Covid
Gold Fever Three days of dirt in Colorado
Pokin' around the Poconos A cold ride around Lake Erie
Dinosaurs in Colorado A mountain bike guide to the Purgatory Canyon dinosaur trackway
Solo Without Pie. The search for pie in the Midwest.
Picking the Scablands. Washington and Oregon, 2005. Pie and spiders on the Columbia River!
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Lawrence08648
Bicycle Mechanics
6
04-19-10 10:57 AM
