Chain and Derailleur Replacement Question
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Chain and Derailleur Replacement Question
I hope this is not a dumb question. I am going to replace both my chain and derailleur. The old chain was fine, even though it was designed for a seven speed rear sprocket with a 46 tooth front sprocket. The bike now has a five speed rear and a 52/40 front. Now the chain is in need of replacement. My derailleur also is old; the small gears are getting round. The derailleur itself is pretty banged up too.
I am asking if anyone has an opinion on what I should replace first, the derailleur or the chain.
I also have a question on the chain length. I watched on line videos on how to measure the length of the chain for installation and it seems simple. I was wondering why I could not just use the old chain as a gauge.
Any opinions would be welcome, TM.
I am asking if anyone has an opinion on what I should replace first, the derailleur or the chain.
I also have a question on the chain length. I watched on line videos on how to measure the length of the chain for installation and it seems simple. I was wondering why I could not just use the old chain as a gauge.
Any opinions would be welcome, TM.
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Your current chain was sized for a single 46 tooth chainring (aka "front sprocket") and you are going to replace the crank with a double with 52/40 tooth chainrings so your chain is very likely too short. After you choose your new 5-speed freewheel (aka "rear sprockets") size your new chain to match the 52T chainring and the largest cog you have.
BTW, you can continue to use a "7-speed" chain with the 5-speed freewheel and actually you will find most of these chains marked as 6/7/8-speed.
As to the derailleur, if the pulleys are badly worn and it doesn't shift well, it should be replace too. I assume your bike has friction shifting of some sort with stem, downtube or barend shifters so almost any rear derailleur will work and an inexpensive one should be good.
BTW, you can continue to use a "7-speed" chain with the 5-speed freewheel and actually you will find most of these chains marked as 6/7/8-speed.
As to the derailleur, if the pulleys are badly worn and it doesn't shift well, it should be replace too. I assume your bike has friction shifting of some sort with stem, downtube or barend shifters so almost any rear derailleur will work and an inexpensive one should be good.
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+1 Your chain is very likely too short, unless it was too long when you started. So it has to go. A worn out derailleur should be dealt with as well. Easiest to do both at once.
Using old chain as a gauge? Well, if it is too short, that really won't work.
I buy 5/6 speed chain for under $5.
Using old chain as a gauge? Well, if it is too short, that really won't work.
I buy 5/6 speed chain for under $5.
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Thank you guys for the good advice: Taking you advice, I went to the local bike shop and brought a chain and derailleur. The process went smoothly. I did have to go back to get a new cable. I can really tell the difference in shifting. Thanks again.
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