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Old 03-06-12 | 05:40 AM
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Found a 2001 aluminum cyclocross bike for a friend on CL. Went to see it and discovered a crack in the integrated seatpost clamp. Can this be repaired? I was thinking it might be possible to cut off the clamp part with a hacksaw and install a new seatpost collar. The rest of the bike was great and just what my friend was looking for. What do you think?

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Old 03-06-12 | 06:35 AM
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You should be able to carefully remove the clamp ears and with enough time and patient filing shape the top of the tube to accept a seat post collar. Be aware that you will have to get the remaining tube very nearly round for the clamp to fit well. Do not just saw off the top of the tube, there will not be enough left for a clamp. If it is a really nice bike it might be worth the time and effort.
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Old 03-06-12 | 07:32 AM
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Always you can just chop that off, make the cut and the relief hole again but this time lower, put a clamp and ready to go. IMO there is enough room if you just cut.

Just find the right clamp to put in there 1st, 1st u find the clamp, then you cut.
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Old 03-06-12 | 08:08 AM
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thanks guys, appreciate the advice.
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Old 03-06-12 | 08:11 AM
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The seller is not the original owner? Looks like a warranty issue to me.

Personally I would keep looking, who knows where else the welder did a lousy job that day.
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Old 03-06-12 | 08:21 AM
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The seller is not the original owner? Looks like a warranty issue to me.

Personally I would keep looking, who knows where else the welder did a lousy job that day.
I don't think the original welder was at fault as the crack isn't through a weld. It looks like someone was too ham-handed with an allen wrench on the pinch bolt a few times.

If the bike is cheap enough, then carefully cutting off the broken ears and filing the tube round is worth the effort as there is plenty of seattube length to accept a collar. However, measure the OD of the seattube at the clamping point to be sure a collar is available in that size.

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Old 03-06-12 | 09:12 AM
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i'm not sure if the seller is the original owner, she said that she had a creaking problem and took it to the lbs who "fixed" it. I suspect they may have overtightened the bolt trying to eliminate the squeak. she said the squeak went away but never noticed the crack.
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If it were to be submitted to a warrantee claim the buyer [OP, here] is not eligible ,
only the one sold the bike, new.

I, 2nd,.. file off the ears and square up the end, to accept an external band clamp.

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keep looking. Who knows what else was over-tightened on that bike, and about to fail from a stress fracture.
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Find a local shop that knows how to TIG weld aluminum and see what they will charge. That crack would only take 5 minutes to do if you have the paint scraped back. Smooth out the weld at home and any that got in the hole with a Dremel tool and touch up the paint.

Propeller shops are good at it if you have a boat store ask there.
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Find a local shop that knows how to TIG weld aluminum and see what they will charge. That crack would only take 5 minutes to do if you have the paint scraped back. Smooth out the weld at home and any that got in the hole with a Dremel tool and touch up the paint.

Propeller shops are good at it if you have a boat store ask there.

would it still be as strong at the weld? worried about it failing again. i think a new seatpost collar would give the best piece of mind. still not sure if she'll still want to buy this bike, even with a substantial price reduction.

it if were my bike I'd haggle to almost free and cut / install a new seatpost collar myself.
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Welds are quite often quite a bit stronger than the original metal around them. I forgot why but i know a machinist friend of mine once told me that. Provided it was welded properly of course. If it is a weld doesn't have good penetration and has lots of slag, no, it won't be strong.
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Strange type of crack.
Perhaps a bolt with a too large head was used, causing the crack.
If I already owned the bike, I'd try riding it as-is, with a smaller bolt head. It may not get any worse because the stress is going in the same direction as the crack.
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