Chainring teeth shapes
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Chainring teeth shapes
Occassionally my cranks feel like they very suddenly slip when I stand on my pedals on the 53 t ring. Thinking that this might be due to a worn chainring I purchased a replacement but noticed that the new replacement has teeth that appear same as the old one,in that some ofbthe teeth are rounded and som are flat/ramped. Why are the teeth all different shapes like that and how can you tell if a chainring is worn enough for replacement.
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If a brand new chain does not lay snugly , without slop.
the desire to by the marketplace, have early shifting that clicks from gear to gear,
has the engineers changing tooth shapes, to accomplish this...
the desire to by the marketplace, have early shifting that clicks from gear to gear,
has the engineers changing tooth shapes, to accomplish this...
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The chainring teeth are shaped like that to aid in shifting and as far as I can tell cannot have wear judged by inspection. Only if they skip under load with a new chain can they be considered worn out. You should get cassettes to last through several chains and chainrings should last through several cogsets so this issue should not come up very often if you avoid letting chains wear too far.
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It takes a lot to wear out chainrings and I expect the skipping you experienced was from the rear cogs, not the crank. The shaped, flattened, etc. teeth you noticed are made that way on purpose to assist shifting and do indeed achieve that purpose very well.
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The cut down or otherwise modified teeth on outer and middle chainrings are shift gates to make it easier for the chain to move on and off the rings without climbing to the tops of the teeth. They're also positioned so the chain shifts at a place where the neighboring chainring is phased so the teeth meet the chain between the rollers for smooth engagement (the glide in Hyperglide).
As Hillrider said slipping on road chainrings is rare, and rarer yet on outer rings. You more typically see chainring slippage on mtb inner and middle rings.
Unless this bike has seen many miles (5-10,000 or more) or you left a chain on until it was very seriously stretched, odds are that the skipping is happening in the back. You can check to see if a chain is likely to skip by setting the bike so it can't roll and having a friend stand on the pedal. On a worn ring the chain will shift back and climb outward on the teeth between 12 and 2 o'clock. Or you can use the tip of a screwdriver to lift the chain outward on the teeth at 3 o'clock. If you can lift a new chain out far enough that there's almost 1/4" of daylight underneath the ring is toast.
As Hillrider said slipping on road chainrings is rare, and rarer yet on outer rings. You more typically see chainring slippage on mtb inner and middle rings.
Unless this bike has seen many miles (5-10,000 or more) or you left a chain on until it was very seriously stretched, odds are that the skipping is happening in the back. You can check to see if a chain is likely to skip by setting the bike so it can't roll and having a friend stand on the pedal. On a worn ring the chain will shift back and climb outward on the teeth between 12 and 2 o'clock. Or you can use the tip of a screwdriver to lift the chain outward on the teeth at 3 o'clock. If you can lift a new chain out far enough that there's almost 1/4" of daylight underneath the ring is toast.
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A 53T ring would have to be seriously worn to make a chain slip across it. Measure the chain for wear, more likely your chain/cassette is worn. Test this by pedaling very hard in the small ring also, but do this sitting down so if it slips you won't come crashing down.
A 53T ring would have to be seriously worn to make a chain slip across it. Measure the chain for wear, more likely your chain/cassette is worn. Test this by pedaling very hard in the small ring also, but do this sitting down so if it slips you won't come crashing down.
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