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Old 08-18-13 | 11:10 AM
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removing freewheel with lockring?

I have the proper socket for removing a freewheel but it seems that i pull it its tightening the freewheel instead of loosening it. all the videos i have watched on you tube don't seem to indicate any type of locking mechanism..... am i do something wrong here??



though on my freewheel it has an arrow pointing which way is lock...

i thought only cassette hubs had lock-rings?

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Are you Manipulating the bearing clearance with a pin spanner ?

a Freewheel has No Lock Ring, Pista and freehub , hubs are different.

what it has is a spline or notches to unscrew the Core of the Body,

using a removal tool, made for the purpose.

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Old 08-18-13 | 11:19 AM
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It's just a standard right hand thread, otherwise it would come off when you pedal... So it comes off counterclockwise. Are you putting it in a vise with the wheel upside down? Then you have to think about which way you're turning the wheel. Freewheels can be pretty tough to remove.
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Old 08-18-13 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by tigerteeuwen
I have the proper socket for removing a freewheel but it seems that i pull it its tightening the freewheel instead of loosening it. all the videos i have watched on you tube don't seem to indicate any type of locking mechanism..... am i do something wrong here??



though on my freewheel it has an arrow pointing which way is lock...

i thought only cassette hubs had lock-rings?
There have been multiple brands and models of freewheels over the years, and some look like freewheels but are not. A "socket" is not used to remove a freewheel, but rather a specialized tool. As noted above the arrow is on the locking cone that holds the freewheel together, and that is a reverse thread. But whether you remove the freewheel from the hub with a wrench or with a tool inserted in a vise it is removed counterclockwise. A properly focused picture of the freewheel, pointing toward the center of the hub, would help greatly.

Also, Youtube is more helpful as a way to see a procedure being done, rather than the primary source of how to do something properly. It's best to first refer to parktool.com/blog or sheldonbrown.com for accurate information.

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So perhaps this is a freehub/cassette style rather then a freewheel?

I just assumed with the age of the bike that it should be a freewheel should it not? i included pictures.



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Originally Posted by tigerteeuwen
So perhaps this is a freehub/cassette style rather then a freewheel?

I just assumed with the age of the bike that it should be a freewheel should it not? i included pictures.
That's a cassette. You need a chain whip and a lock ring remover. Hold the cassette in place with the chain whip and loosen the lockring in a normal manner. You will need a large wrench for the lockring remover.
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That's a cassette. You need a chain whip and a lock ring remover. Hold the cassette in place with the chain whip and loosen the lockring in a normal manner. You will need a large wrench for the lockring remover.
okay, thank you for answering my question.

I assumed it was a freewheel because the bike is an early 90's Norco Bigfoot, but i guess they had cassettes back then as well.
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Or it's a replacement wheel, bought since..
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The bulge at the drive side of the hub is another way to tell that it is a cassette/freehub setup.

When you put it back don't forget to grease the threads and to torque it adequately. Typical Shimano specs are 260-434 in-lb (22-36 ft-lb or 29.3-49N-m). This is a surprising amount of force, I recommend the use of a torque wrench.
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Old 08-18-13 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by fietsbob
Or it's a replacement wheel, bought since..
I doubt it, the rim matches to the front an ARAYA VP-20.

I posted a picture, it looks like an early 90's frame.



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Originally Posted by tigerteeuwen
I doubt it, the rim matches to the front an ARAYA VP-20......
That's a very common rim from that era. You'd find it on a wide assortment of hubs.
I flip bikes on CL.
Sometimes I'll get a bike with 1 VP-20 and when I sell it, it has 0 or 2. It just depends on what I have in the parts pile.
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Originally Posted by tigerteeuwen
I doubt it, the rim matches to the front an ARAYA VP-20.

I posted a picture, it looks like an early 90's frame.



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Aw c'mon, grow a pair and ride a pink bike.

Cassette wheels have been around (in one form or another) since the late-1970's and were pretty common by the early 90's.
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Originally Posted by tigerteeuwen
okay, thank you for answering my question.

I assumed it was a freewheel because the bike is an early 90's Norco Bigfoot, but i guess they had cassettes back then as well.
I love it - ah to be that young to think the 90's was "back then," practically the middle ages.
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