Headset ... how to repair it ?
#2
Banned
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 43,586
Likes: 1,380
From: NW,Oregon Coast
Bikes: 8
loose ? tighten its preload adjustment, the loosened srem bolts in back stem lets that happen
with the bolt in the center cap tightened, increases the tightness , then you re tighten the stem around the fork bolts.
If its also stiff its not working right. take the fork apart and replace the whole bearing set,
or clean and grease it at least.
or bring the bike to a shop. your Cannondale Dealer, then they can see
what replacement parts you need to buy.
with the bolt in the center cap tightened, increases the tightness , then you re tighten the stem around the fork bolts.
If its also stiff its not working right. take the fork apart and replace the whole bearing set,
or clean and grease it at least.
or bring the bike to a shop. your Cannondale Dealer, then they can see
what replacement parts you need to buy.
Last edited by fietsbob; 02-18-14 at 12:36 PM.
#3
#4
Senior Member
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 2,243
Likes: 4
From: Spokane, WA
Bikes: Specialized Sequoia Elite/Motobecane Fantom Cross Team Ti/'85 Trek 520
Whenever I see that issue, it is because someone who doesn't know much about bikes was putting the bearings in and they put the bearing(s) in upside down assuming you have caged bearings.
If you put the cages upside down in place, when you tighten down the headset, it will feel loose and then as soon as it tightens up, it will get very hard to turn and crunchy.
Bearings with cages can only be inserted one way.
If you put the cages upside down in place, when you tighten down the headset, it will feel loose and then as soon as it tightens up, it will get very hard to turn and crunchy.
Bearings with cages can only be inserted one way.
#5
Mechanic/Tourist
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 7,522
Likes: 12
From: Syracuse, NY
Bikes: 2008 Novara Randonee - love it. Previous bikes:Motobecane Mirage, 1972 Moto Grand Jubilee (my fave), Jackson Rake 16, 1983 C'dale ST500.
From the looks of the bottom race the bearings are either in improperly or they have rusted so badly that they are no longer there. New Headset time.
#6
Senior Member
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 7,579
Likes: 6
From: Pearland, Texas
Bikes: Cannondale, Trek, Raleigh, Santana
rideforever1, Welcome to the forum.
I suggest a new complete headset. The two bottom races are out of alignment and I doubt the races are now any good.
Brad
I suggest a new complete headset. The two bottom races are out of alignment and I doubt the races are now any good.
Brad
#7
Senior Member
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 33,657
Likes: 1,119
From: Pittsburgh, PA
Bikes: '96 Litespeed Catalyst, '05 Litespeed Firenze, '06 Litespeed Tuscany, '20 Surly Midnight Special, All are 3x10. It is hilly around here!
#8
Thread Starter
Junior Member
Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
Hi thanks. Would you be able to point out a headset on a bike parts shop for me ? There are a lot of options and I don't know what is required. This is a Canondale hybrid.
I don't know anything about Headsets, although I have changed the chain and all the cables - that much I can do.
Cant be that hard to fit a headset can it ?
> yeah it's stored outside, no options unfortunately ... my plan is to change the chain and all cables once a year ... it's the best I can do
I don't know anything about Headsets, although I have changed the chain and all the cables - that much I can do.
Cant be that hard to fit a headset can it ?
> yeah it's stored outside, no options unfortunately ... my plan is to change the chain and all cables once a year ... it's the best I can do
#9
Super Moderator

Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 21,985
Likes: 1,159
From: Ffld Cnty Connecticut
Bikes: Old Steelies I made, Old Cannondales
I don't know the specifcs for your bike, but www.parktool.com/repair
has a lot of useful information. So, once you get the right headset, they may be able to help you install & adjust it.
has a lot of useful information. So, once you get the right headset, they may be able to help you install & adjust it.
__________________
Bikes: Old steel race bikes, old Cannondale race bikes, less old Cannondale race bike, crappy old mtn bike.
FYI: https://www.bikeforums.net/forum-sugg...ad-please.html
Bikes: Old steel race bikes, old Cannondale race bikes, less old Cannondale race bike, crappy old mtn bike.
FYI: https://www.bikeforums.net/forum-sugg...ad-please.html
#10
Senior Member
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 33,657
Likes: 1,119
From: Pittsburgh, PA
Bikes: '96 Litespeed Catalyst, '05 Litespeed Firenze, '06 Litespeed Tuscany, '20 Surly Midnight Special, All are 3x10. It is hilly around here!
Removal and installation of the crown race (the race at the base of the steerer tube) is best done with specialized tools and the bearings of your headset may be caged balls or a specific configuration cartridge.
At this point, you would probably be better served by taking the bike to a Cannondale dealer as they will have the exact specs.
At this point, you would probably be better served by taking the bike to a Cannondale dealer as they will have the exact specs.
#11
Custom User Title
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 11,239
Likes: 35
From: SE MN
Bikes: Fuji Roubaix Pro & Quintana Roo Kilo
I don't know the specifcs for your bike, but www.parktool.com/repair
has a lot of useful information. So, once you get the right headset, they may be able to help you install & adjust it.
has a lot of useful information. So, once you get the right headset, they may be able to help you install & adjust it.
#12
Senior Member
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 6,682
Likes: 4
From: Above ground, Walnut Creek, Ca
Bikes: 8 ss bikes, 1 5-speed touring bike
ya, looks like the headset is toast, and if it were me, i might think about cleaning the bird poop off the top cap before taking it into the bike shop, just as a courtesy...
#13
Senior Member

Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 28,682
Likes: 63
From: Houston, TX
Bikes: 1990 Romic Reynolds 531 custom build, Merlin Works CR Ti custom build, super light Workswell 066 custom build
OP, you can buy a cover for it to provide some protection from the elements. Bike Nashbar or your LBS should have some at reasonable prices.
#14
Senior Member
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 7,579
Likes: 6
From: Pearland, Texas
Bikes: Cannondale, Trek, Raleigh, Santana
#15
Senior Member
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 33,657
Likes: 1,119
From: Pittsburgh, PA
Bikes: '96 Litespeed Catalyst, '05 Litespeed Firenze, '06 Litespeed Tuscany, '20 Surly Midnight Special, All are 3x10. It is hilly around here!
Yes, a starnut can be pushed down and still used if shortening the steerer but, based on the pictures, the steerer is not excessively long.
#16
Mechanic/Tourist
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 7,522
Likes: 12
From: Syracuse, NY
Bikes: 2008 Novara Randonee - love it. Previous bikes:Motobecane Mirage, 1972 Moto Grand Jubilee (my fave), Jackson Rake 16, 1983 C'dale ST500.
Google threadless headset to see sources, prices and replacement procedures. As noted above look at the Parktool.com result and also sheldonbrown.com first. Videos can be helpful to see the procedure, but videos often leave out important info. Replacing a threadless headset is not terribly difficult - you just need to check the one you have for correct dimensions.
#17
Looks like the lower race is missing bearings... a replacement headset is not that expensive and it is not a big job to do although specialized tools make it easier.
Why is your frame covered in black tape ?
Wondering as if you put it there you probably know what is under it, if it came that way I'd remove it and see what it is covering.
Why is your frame covered in black tape ?
Wondering as if you put it there you probably know what is under it, if it came that way I'd remove it and see what it is covering.
#18
Custom User Title
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 11,239
Likes: 35
From: SE MN
Bikes: Fuji Roubaix Pro & Quintana Roo Kilo
#19
Senior Member
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 33,657
Likes: 1,119
From: Pittsburgh, PA
Bikes: '96 Litespeed Catalyst, '05 Litespeed Firenze, '06 Litespeed Tuscany, '20 Surly Midnight Special, All are 3x10. It is hilly around here!
To keep the starnut square in the steerer while you are hammering it down, put the top cap back on the steerer and run a long M5x.8 mm bolt through it's center hole and thread it into the starnut. The top cap then acts as an alignment guide while you pound on top of the bolt. Also, measure how far you want to lower the starnut and mark the bolt that far above the top cap. Then drive it down until your mark is at the cap.
As with every other cutting job, measure at least twice before getting out the hammer or saw.
#20
Custom User Title
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 11,239
Likes: 35
From: SE MN
Bikes: Fuji Roubaix Pro & Quintana Roo Kilo
Yes, I knew you were not but you didn't ask about your own bike directly. My answer is still correct and you can indeed push a starnut further down the steerer to let you cut above it.
To keep the starnut square in the steerer while you are hammering it down, put the top cap back on the steerer and run a long M5x.8 mm bolt through it's center hole and thread it into the starnut. The top cap then acts as an alignment guide while you pound on top of the bolt. Also, measure how far you want to lower the starnut and mark the bolt that far above the top cap. Then drive it down until your mark is at the cap.
As with every other cutting job, measure at least twice before getting out the hammer or saw.
To keep the starnut square in the steerer while you are hammering it down, put the top cap back on the steerer and run a long M5x.8 mm bolt through it's center hole and thread it into the starnut. The top cap then acts as an alignment guide while you pound on top of the bolt. Also, measure how far you want to lower the starnut and mark the bolt that far above the top cap. Then drive it down until your mark is at the cap.
As with every other cutting job, measure at least twice before getting out the hammer or saw.
#21
Thread Starter
Junior Member
Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
I just replaced my derailleur cables successfully, after last week's chain and brake cables, so I think I will tackle the headset - saving so much money doing it myself.
I saw this part (cheap and well reviewed), it's 1 1/8 " ... although it says BMX / MTB ... I assume it will work on a Canondale Hybrid City Bike ??
https://www.chainreactioncycles.com/f...t/rp-prod57088
I saw this part (cheap and well reviewed), it's 1 1/8 " ... although it says BMX / MTB ... I assume it will work on a Canondale Hybrid City Bike ??
https://www.chainreactioncycles.com/f...t/rp-prod57088
#22
Custom User Title
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 11,239
Likes: 35
From: SE MN
Bikes: Fuji Roubaix Pro & Quintana Roo Kilo
I just replaced my derailleur cables successfully, after last week's chain and brake cables, so I think I will tackle the headset - saving so much money doing it myself.
I saw this part (cheap and well reviewed), it's 1 1/8 " ... although it says BMX / MTB ... I assume it will work on a Canondale Hybrid City Bike ??
https://www.chainreactioncycles.com/f...t/rp-prod57088
I saw this part (cheap and well reviewed), it's 1 1/8 " ... although it says BMX / MTB ... I assume it will work on a Canondale Hybrid City Bike ??
https://www.chainreactioncycles.com/f...t/rp-prod57088
Headset replacement, as stated earlier, takes some specialized tools. It takes one special tool for the removal and another for the installation. I'm not sure if you can rig something up for the removal, but I've read online about people successfully using a threaded rod, washers, and nuts to create a cheap headset press to install the headset. I'm planning on doing this for my current build.
#23
Thread Starter
Junior Member
Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
Sheldon Brown has instructions which just use basic tools ...
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/headsets.html
To buy the tools is very expensive - I checked !! I might as well buy a new bike.
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/headsets.html
To buy the tools is very expensive - I checked !! I might as well buy a new bike.
#24
Banned
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 43,586
Likes: 1,380
From: NW,Oregon Coast
Bikes: 8
Service at a Bike Shop , means you dont have to buy all the tools .
to buy a house is expensive, bike tools you buy a couple as you need them .
next time,.. impromptu seal .. cut a section out of old inner tube out,
and stretch it over the fork when you put it back in the frame ,
to better shield the bottom bearings from rain and wheelspray crud ..
to buy a house is expensive, bike tools you buy a couple as you need them .
next time,.. impromptu seal .. cut a section out of old inner tube out,
and stretch it over the fork when you put it back in the frame ,
to better shield the bottom bearings from rain and wheelspray crud ..
Last edited by fietsbob; 02-18-14 at 11:05 AM.
#25
Custom User Title
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 11,239
Likes: 35
From: SE MN
Bikes: Fuji Roubaix Pro & Quintana Roo Kilo
Sheldon Brown has instructions which just use basic tools ...
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/headsets.html
To buy the tools is very expensive - I checked !! I might as well buy a new bike.
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/headsets.html
To buy the tools is very expensive - I checked !! I might as well buy a new bike.





