broken frame
#1
Newbie
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: British Columbia, Canada
Posts: 3
Bikes: 1984 Miyata1000, 1992 Trek 950
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
broken frame
My 1984 Miyata 1000 touring bike has a broken frame. It broke in two places at the rear drop out. It has about 122,000 kms on it. Should I try to get it welded, or opt for a new machine?
#3
Banned
Like I can See ?
just the dropout ? they are easy to replace if someone knows How. & has the torch.
just the dropout ? they are easy to replace if someone knows How. & has the torch.
#5
Old fart
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Appleton WI
Posts: 24,780
Bikes: Several, mostly not name brands.
Mentioned: 153 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3583 Post(s)
Liked 3,396 Times
in
1,930 Posts
If it's just the dropout, that's trivial to replace. If looks aren't important, a few squirts of rattlecan paint will protect the repair from rust, and it's on the road again.
#6
FLIR Kitten to 0.05C
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Lincoln, Nebraska
Posts: 5,331
Bikes: Roadie: Seven Axiom Race Ti w/Chorus 11s. CX/Adventure: Carver Gravel Grinder w/ Di2
Mentioned: 30 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2349 Post(s)
Liked 406 Times
in
254 Posts
OP, 1984 frame with 120,000km on it? OP, you realize that is almost 1/2 way to the moon, right?
Bike has got to have some soul. Repair it.
#7
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: New Rochelle, NY
Posts: 38,671
Bikes: too many bikes from 1967 10s (5x2)Frejus to a Sumitomo Ti/Chorus aluminum 10s (10x2), plus one non-susp mtn bike I use as my commuter
Mentioned: 140 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5767 Post(s)
Liked 2,541 Times
in
1,407 Posts
+1 on retirement. At 100,000 kms any bike has earned retirement to a fond place in our memories. This doesn't mean that they can't go farther, but they don't owe us any more.
Fix it if you want, but feel free to celebrate the memories and move on.
Fix it if you want, but feel free to celebrate the memories and move on.
__________________
FB
Chain-L site
An ounce of diagnosis is worth a pound of cure.
Just because I'm tired of arguing, doesn't mean you're right.
“One accurate measurement is worth a thousand expert opinions” - Adm Grace Murray Hopper - USN
WARNING, I'm from New York. Thin skinned people should maintain safe distance.
FB
Chain-L site
An ounce of diagnosis is worth a pound of cure.
Just because I'm tired of arguing, doesn't mean you're right.
“One accurate measurement is worth a thousand expert opinions” - Adm Grace Murray Hopper - USN
WARNING, I'm from New York. Thin skinned people should maintain safe distance.
#9
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 1,437
Bikes: NOYB
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times
in
2 Posts
I'd just get both the dropouts replaced. (They're equally fatigued, so the other one will break soon too.) Where in BC are you?
If you're near Vancouver, give Robert at Dizzy Cycles a call. He also works at Toby's Cycleworks, and they should be able to fix that up for you.
There's also Mike Truelove at MT Metalworks up in Squamish. He does really great work and has tons of experience doing exactly that type of repair. The only trick is sourcing the same or similar specced dropouts to the ones currently on your bike. Columbus and old Campagnolo ones are still pretty common - and extra eyelets can always be brazed to them for fender and rack mounting, if you like.
If you're near Vancouver, give Robert at Dizzy Cycles a call. He also works at Toby's Cycleworks, and they should be able to fix that up for you.
There's also Mike Truelove at MT Metalworks up in Squamish. He does really great work and has tons of experience doing exactly that type of repair. The only trick is sourcing the same or similar specced dropouts to the ones currently on your bike. Columbus and old Campagnolo ones are still pretty common - and extra eyelets can always be brazed to them for fender and rack mounting, if you like.
Last edited by Torchy McFlux; 10-05-14 at 01:04 AM.
#10
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 2,522
Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1422 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 7 Times
in
5 Posts
Easy repair for a frame builder.
I had a dropout crack on my Panasonic and had the pair replaced and road the bike another 10 years.
The builder will probably want to replace both sides, it's easier to get them to align properly that way.
I had a dropout crack on my Panasonic and had the pair replaced and road the bike another 10 years.
The builder will probably want to replace both sides, it's easier to get them to align properly that way.
#11
Newbie
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: British Columbia, Canada
Posts: 3
Bikes: 1984 Miyata1000, 1992 Trek 950
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
I've removed all the parts, and the old Miyata frame sits there, naked. I look forward to getting a new road bike, but it's still sad to see the old one like this. Thanks for the advice everyone.
#12
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Middle Earth (aka IA)
Posts: 20,433
Bikes: A bunch of old bikes and a few new ones
Mentioned: 178 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5888 Post(s)
Liked 3,471 Times
in
2,079 Posts
You have to respect a bike with that many miles on it. Get it fixed and keep riding it.
#13
Newbie
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: British Columbia, Canada
Posts: 3
Bikes: 1984 Miyata1000, 1992 Trek 950
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
I'd just get both the dropouts replaced. (They're equally fatigued, so the other one will break soon too.) Where in BC are you?
If you're near Vancouver, give Robert at Dizzy Cycles a call. He also works at Toby's Cycleworks, and they should be able to fix that up for you.
There's also Mike Truelove at MT Metalworks up in Squamish. He does really great work and has tons of experience doing exactly that type of repair. The only trick is sourcing the same or similar specced dropouts to the ones currently on your bike. Columbus and old Campagnolo ones are still pretty common - and extra eyelets can always be brazed to them for fender and rack mounting, if you like.
If you're near Vancouver, give Robert at Dizzy Cycles a call. He also works at Toby's Cycleworks, and they should be able to fix that up for you.
There's also Mike Truelove at MT Metalworks up in Squamish. He does really great work and has tons of experience doing exactly that type of repair. The only trick is sourcing the same or similar specced dropouts to the ones currently on your bike. Columbus and old Campagnolo ones are still pretty common - and extra eyelets can always be brazed to them for fender and rack mounting, if you like.
#15
Collector of Useless Info
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 1,404
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times
in
2 Posts
So is it the dropout casting or the tubing the dropout is brazed into? If it's the dropout casting, get it repaired; if it's the seatstay or chainstay tubing, it's probably time to retire it. Because it's a Miyata 1000, somebody will still probably want it if you don't want to use it as wall art.
#16
Calamari Marionette Ph.D
#17
It's MY mountain
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Mt.Diablo
Posts: 10,001
Bikes: Klein, Merckx, Trek
Mentioned: 70 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4336 Post(s)
Liked 2,977 Times
in
1,614 Posts
#18
Mechanic/Tourist
Well, technically on a lugged steel frame it's brazing, not welding.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
RobinWinter
Classic & Vintage
44
01-14-18 03:33 PM
eurycea
Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals.
5
06-30-11 07:36 AM