Help! Cassette Issue
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Help! Cassette Issue
Hello,
I removed my 105 cassette for the first time to clean out all the junk in it. I installed it back and when I rode my bike this morning I had trouble shifting in the middle gears and my chain even got stuck while I was going downhill. I installed it with all the spacers and the numbers facing outwards. Did I do something wrong? Is it just a matter of adding more lube? See cassette picture below.
Picture of cassette (yes it got dirty again from today's ride):
I removed my 105 cassette for the first time to clean out all the junk in it. I installed it back and when I rode my bike this morning I had trouble shifting in the middle gears and my chain even got stuck while I was going downhill. I installed it with all the spacers and the numbers facing outwards. Did I do something wrong? Is it just a matter of adding more lube? See cassette picture below.
Picture of cassette (yes it got dirty again from today's ride):
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The nobby background may cause the apparent angle 1-2 cassette rings larger than the chain. Cassettes take a surprising amount of torque to fully tighten the
lock ring, which is illusory because of the ratchet effect which makes it seem tight when it is not. If you don't have a torque wrench to get the torque in the
right range, take the wheel off, unscrew the QR nut and put the cassette tool on and lock it in place with the QR nut on the QR shaft and give the lock ring
at least another 1/4 or even 1/2 turn. If lopek is right and there is an angularity in the cassette ring-to-ring then take it apart first and clean everything up and
reassemble.
lock ring, which is illusory because of the ratchet effect which makes it seem tight when it is not. If you don't have a torque wrench to get the torque in the
right range, take the wheel off, unscrew the QR nut and put the cassette tool on and lock it in place with the QR nut on the QR shaft and give the lock ring
at least another 1/4 or even 1/2 turn. If lopek is right and there is an angularity in the cassette ring-to-ring then take it apart first and clean everything up and
reassemble.
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The nobby background may cause the apparent angle 1-2 cassette rings larger than the chain. Cassettes take a surprising amount of torque to fully tighten the
lock ring, which is illusory because of the ratchet effect which makes it seem tight when it is not. If you don't have a torque wrench to get the torque in the
right range, take the wheel off, unscrew the QR nut and put the cassette tool on and lock it in place with the QR nut on the QR shaft and give the lock ring
at least another 1/4 or even 1/2 turn. If lopek is right and there is an angularity in the cassette ring-to-ring then take it apart first and clean everything up and
reassemble.
lock ring, which is illusory because of the ratchet effect which makes it seem tight when it is not. If you don't have a torque wrench to get the torque in the
right range, take the wheel off, unscrew the QR nut and put the cassette tool on and lock it in place with the QR nut on the QR shaft and give the lock ring
at least another 1/4 or even 1/2 turn. If lopek is right and there is an angularity in the cassette ring-to-ring then take it apart first and clean everything up and
reassemble.
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Be sure that all of the cogs are equal distance from each other. If you look at the cogs carefully you will see that each cog has one wider spline that fits a particular wider spline gap on the freehub. Make sure that the smallest cog is properly lined up so that it will slide over the spline while you tighten the lock ring. If it's not aligned correctly it can tighten on the ends of the splines, causing the other cogs to remain loose.
Last edited by Al1943; 02-09-15 at 05:03 PM.
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If it was my bike... At this point, I'd probably:
It might be more steps than you're hoping for, but at the end of the process, it's gonna work.
- Remove the cassette.
- Inspect cassette/spacers/freehub.
- Replace the cassette, ensuring that it's tightened completely. If I remember correctly, Shimano specifies lockring torque of 35 n-m, or roughly 26 foot pounds. And if you have a spacer behind your cassette, like you would if you're using a 10-speed cassette on an 11-speed hub, make sure the cassette rivets (if there are any) fit into the notches on the spacer.
- Reinspect post-assembly.
- Check derailleur settings and adjust if necessary. Park Tool's tutorial HERE will walk you through the steps.
It might be more steps than you're hoping for, but at the end of the process, it's gonna work.
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Now adjust the derailer, including the limit stop screws. Hopefully it will fix everything.
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If it was my bike... At this point, I'd probably:
It might be more steps than you're hoping for, but at the end of the process, it's gonna work.
- Remove the cassette.
- Inspect cassette/spacers/freehub.
- Replace the cassette, ensuring that it's tightened completely. If I remember correctly, Shimano specifies lockring torque of 35 n-m, or roughly 26 foot pounds. And if you have a spacer behind your cassette, like you would if you're using a 10-speed cassette on an 11-speed hub, make sure the cassette rivets (if there are any) fit into the notches on the spacer.
- Reinspect post-assembly.
- Check derailleur settings and adjust if necessary. Park Tool's tutorial HERE will walk you through the steps.
It might be more steps than you're hoping for, but at the end of the process, it's gonna work.
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I figured it out. See attachment. I put spacer #14 at the end instead of the front (toward the rim). D'oh!!!

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If it was my bike... At this point, I'd probably:
- Remove the cassette........ Park Tool's tutorial HERE will walk you through the steps...at the end of the process, it's gonna work.
I figured it out. See attachment. I put spacer #14 at the end instead of the front (toward the rim). D'oh!!! 
Let's see ... 9:19 started out with a big wrench, 2 hrs later reported assembly error corrected. Yep, that's about right. Winning.
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Disclaimer: 99% of what I know about cycling I learned on BF. That would make, ummm, 1% experience. And a lot of posts.
FB4K - Every October we wrench on donated bikes. Every December, a few thousand kids get bikes for Christmas. For many, it is their first bike, ever. Every bike, new and used, was donated, built, cleaned and repaired. Check us out on FaceBook: FB4K.
Disclaimer: 99% of what I know about cycling I learned on BF. That would make, ummm, 1% experience. And a lot of posts.
Last edited by RoadTire; 02-10-15 at 12:31 AM.
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