bamab2

I have a line on a late 80's bike with a full Shimano 105 group. Brakes, derailleurs, shifters, crank set, and hubs. Mavic wheels with new tires and tubes. Not sure about pedals. Everything is supposed to be in good shape. I can probably get it for around $150. I'm thinking I could use everything for a future build or ride for a while. What do you guys think about the value?

RoadGuy

If the stuff is in excellent condition, that would be about the top of the market value with downtube shifters.

oddjob2

Wheelset is another $60 +/-.

bamab2

What is the hierarchy of 600 and 105 groups in the late 80's to early 90's? Are the 600EX parts considered better than the early 105's? I think these parts are from 1990 and are the third gen (I think) 1055 or 105SC. Does this make a difference?

rccardr 

600 series was always considered a level above 105 and a level below Dura-Ace. But when one considers the trickle-down from DA to 600 to 105 that occurred between 86 and 90, it can get confusing.

6208 which is indexed 600 6 speed double, is beautiful stuff, lots of polished aluminum, shifts very well. Shortcoming is the common breakage of the right DT shifter, a weakness that was resolved on both 105 (1050 series, 1987) and 600 Tricolor (6400 series, also 1987).

105 1050 is marvelous stuff. Shifts as well as any indexed DT system made, bulletproof, pretty, polished. No real downside. there was a 1989 version that was seven speeds, only real change was the shifters and some of the brake levers and calipers were available with gray/green anodizing.

Tricolor 6400, which later became 6402 with 8 speeds and then 6403 with STI shifters, was a totally new design. Painted rather than polished, so doesn't always age well, but if in nice condition it looks as good as it works, which is flawless. And the STI's can be rebuilt.

1055 and it's sibling triple 1056 is a direct trickle down from Tricolor. Looks pretty much the same but paint color is champagne, kind of a silver/light green. Works as well as 6400, also eventually got 8 speeds and STI's. Downside is that it came on lower level bikes and the finish is not as durable as 640X, so it tends to get pretty beaten up when used.

Bottom line is it's all good. Look for complete groupsets in good mechanical and cosmetic condition and it will last for, well, decades.

mstateglfr 

600 tricolor is above 600EX and 105.
600ex is above 105.

thats my view and opinion. But 105 from then was still flippin nice. 600tricolor became Ultegra, and current Ultegra is above 105. Ive seen bike cost sheets from 86 and 87 where 600EX equipped bikes were higher than 105.



At this point though, almost 30 years later, the condition is way more important. I would rather have a clean 105 group than a scraped up 600 group.

oddjob2

Great overview, thanks Doc.

plonz 

I think it's a great price provided the cranks are the right size and you need the wheels. You could probably get the shifting and brake bits cheaper if that's all you really needed.