billytwosheds 

Not in the market for one myself, but it's hard to find a complete mostly-original road bike like this around these parts.

Mint 80's Centurion Road Bike - $290



1987 Dave Scott IRONMAN, 57 cm.
As you can see from the pictures, the bike is immaculate.

Price is firm.

Japan Made
Double-butted Tange 1 Chromoly tubing
Bike is registered in my name, ready to transfer.
Moser Stem
Mavic MA-40 rims laced to Shimano 600 hubs. Which are still buttery smooth. Mavic MA-40 rims were the rims to have in the 80's-strong, light and durable. Still fantastic even compared to today's rims.
Comes with a frame fit pump.
Shimano 600 parts throughout.

This bike was kept inside always and well taken care of.

Shimano 600 parts were today's equivalent of Shimano Ultegra. That is, second from the top of the line Dura Ace. Back then (and now) Dura Ace was at the top of Shimano's line, under that was Shimano 600, under that was Shimano 105, and so on. I have owned several bikes through my 40 years of riding, my current bike has these parts, and they are just perfect. I have nothing but glowing things to say about the higher end Shimano parts. Durable, lightweight, beautiful.

But, if you are looking at this bike you probably know something about bikes, so I guess I may be "preaching to the choir".

Price is firm. Thanks for looking.


Looks like something I could pick up and hold onto for a friend - for when they're ready to appreciate a nicer steel roadie.

Is this priced fairly? TIA

mstateglfr 

Its certainly a good size- 57cm- for it to fit a good segment of the male population.
Its not a terrible price, if it really is as pristine as described. I would guess that like you mention, pickins are slim out in HI.

Is there someone in mind for this bike or would you just buy it in the offchance someone could someday use it? If that's the case- man you are a great host! Most save an old Schwinn with out of true wheels for someone to use- you have an incredible Iron Man.

Kactus

It looks like it needs nothing but a tune-up/cleaning. Seems like a good price for a very popular bike.

ramzilla

I've owned bikes from all over the place. Italy, France, England and, my favorite is still Japanese. They're hard to beat. Easy to restore. Abundant new parts readily available. IMHO these under appreciated bikes are going to be discovered by collectors some day and become more valuable. If the bike has no damage then $290 is reasonable.

oddjob2

Would have never guessed that from your Avatar descriptor box and your signature.

It's priced below FMV IMHO, by $50-$100.

ramzilla

I think $290 is a really good price too. Around here in Atlanta sellers usually ask around $350 for a bike like that. 87 is an interesting year for Centurion too. It was getting near the end of the Japanese production run.

zukahn1 

Looks to be very nice bike in get shape at really fair price. I would say it is priced about $100 or so below market for the Islands.

jetboy 

i think you got your answer. not that it matters much but it looks to be a 86 and not an 87 - its pre-master/expert split and does not have biopace.. and various other little differences. as per the "centurion" thread next door this would be "The Classic"

vs other popular paint schemes like "Miami Vice" and "Purple Haze" which came later.

billytwosheds 

Hmm...it might not even be an '86 - which came with Biopace as well, according to this catalog:

https://vivalaslider.files.wordpress...on-catalog.pdf



Which conflicts with other non-Biopace-equipped Ironmans from 1986 like this one:

'86 Centurion Ironman Dave Scott (SOLD) on velospace, the place for bikes

Still on the fence about picking this one up, but curious what the year actually is.

Sheldon said:

"The Ironman Dave Scott model name replaced Comp TA in 1985 and with the name change came indexed shifting with an upgraded Shimano "New" 600EX group. In 1987 the economy Ironman Expert Dave Scott model, with its Shimano 105 groupset, appeared and the "Master" designation was added to the original Ironman Dave Scott to distinguish it from the "Expert." The frames of both models were identical, featuring the same Tange #1 tubing, itself renamed from Champion #1. At about this time, a TIG-welded fork crown replaced the more graceful, semi-sloped investment cast fork crowns of the Comp TA and the earlier Ironman models. My 1988 Expert weighs about 21lbs."

So this is likely a 1986 "Master"...or could it be a 1987 "Master"?

Kactus

Or the chain rings have been replaced.

jetboy 

yes, lots of people replaced the chain rings- i like biopace fine but others not so much.

anyway, he might have bought it in 1987 but its an 86 model. there are no significant differences between it and an 1987 master- which I happen to have. same frame, same fork, same components, same stickers except for the addition of "master" above the signature line. I am also not sure they made a black and red master in 1987. I think it was only the expert.

The expert model in 1987 got the cast fork crown (sheldon is a bit unclear.. and may not have known that it was only the expert that got this in 1987) and 105. in 1988-> everything got cast crowns, stickers changed, and there are slight differences in the lugs. for example the 86 and 87 seat lug comes to a point at the front, in 1988 it is rounded off etc etc.

the short answer to your question is: Yes, this would be considered a "master"

Edit: and you should go buy it. if it fits you might find yourself leaving the bridgestone home!

billytwosheds 

Welp, it was sold today. Probably a good thing too...have too many projects going as-is.

Thanks for the replies @jetboy, @Kactus, @ramzilla et al.