1976 Colnago Super
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1976 Colnago Super
Hi, I recently picked up a colnago super from 1976 with campy nuovo record components, even the pedals are campy clipless. Unfortunately it’s one size smaller from my size, 53cm frame size. It has rust spots and I would try to restore it if I could keep it but I won’t due to its size. Just wondering what’s the value of this bike if I decide to sell.
will add pics shortly. i’m not able uplof pics since I’m new, this rule doesn’t help a new comer
will add pics shortly. i’m not able uplof pics since I’m new, this rule doesn’t help a new comer
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The reason BF does this is to make sure the person is legit.
Looking forward to the pics as I MYSELF are fortunate enough to have a 1976 Colnago Super !!!!!!!
The reason BF does this is to make sure the person is legit.
Looking forward to the pics as I MYSELF are fortunate enough to have a 1976 Colnago Super !!!!!!!
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...on value, I bought an early 70's Colnago Super (frame only) here in NorCal a few weeks back for $350. It needed some paint work, which I am now doing myself. For some reason the complete bicycles seem to hold value in the $1,000 range. Less if it's rode hard and put away wet, more if pristine.
...on value, I bought an early 70's Colnago Super (frame only) here in NorCal a few weeks back for $350. It needed some paint work, which I am now doing myself. For some reason the complete bicycles seem to hold value in the $1,000 range. Less if it's rode hard and put away wet, more if pristine.
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That is a pretty bike, and apparently in excellent condition.
I'm going to give a pretty broad price range of $600 to $1200.
As-is, it should be able to sell for $600 fairly quickly.
Add a new chain, a deep cleaning, and perhaps a complete lube job (remove all bearings, clean and regrease), and you should be hitting closer to $800.
I think the fork crown could use some help, although I'm not quite sure what.
Then there is a question of "improvements". I like aero brake levers, but are those original? Clipless? Date codes on the rear derailleur and crankset?
The mottling of the anodized rims is pretty common. I'd probably upgrade to some appropriate low profile clincher rims. But, there are arguments to stick with original 70's era sewups.
Unfortunately, beyond the basic cleaning, lube, and making sure all the parts are on the bike, one can quickly plunge down a rabbit hole of upgrades. And, try to satisfy the "purist", and one spends a lot of money irrelevant to the "rider" type of buyer. And, go for pure riding and aesthetics, and the purist will be put off.
I'm going to give a pretty broad price range of $600 to $1200.
As-is, it should be able to sell for $600 fairly quickly.
Add a new chain, a deep cleaning, and perhaps a complete lube job (remove all bearings, clean and regrease), and you should be hitting closer to $800.
I think the fork crown could use some help, although I'm not quite sure what.
Then there is a question of "improvements". I like aero brake levers, but are those original? Clipless? Date codes on the rear derailleur and crankset?
The mottling of the anodized rims is pretty common. I'd probably upgrade to some appropriate low profile clincher rims. But, there are arguments to stick with original 70's era sewups.
Unfortunately, beyond the basic cleaning, lube, and making sure all the parts are on the bike, one can quickly plunge down a rabbit hole of upgrades. And, try to satisfy the "purist", and one spends a lot of money irrelevant to the "rider" type of buyer. And, go for pure riding and aesthetics, and the purist will be put off.
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Pretty bike.
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@ hazetguy I determined its year based on the info on cycling obsession blog post named how to identify a colnago super. Will add some additional pictures and details shortly.
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Nice looking bike, but it's not a 1976. More like '80.
Velo-Retro: Colnago Super Timeline
Velo-Retro: Colnago Super Timeline
Campagnolo SGR-1 pedals, 1988 to 1991:
VeloBase.com - Component: Campagnolo SGR-1, Record
VeloBase.com - Component: Campagnolo SGR-1, Record
Campagnolo C-Record (or Chorus) AERO brake levers. Mid to late 80's.
VeloBase.com - Component: Campagnolo C-Record
VeloBase.com - Component: Campagnolo Chorus
Campagnolo Nuovo Record Crankset and chainrings, 1967 to 1987 (Note, they should have a date code stamp on the back side):
VeloBase.com - Component: Campagnolo 1049, (Nuovo) Record Strada v4 (BCD 144)
The Rear derailleur should also have a date code. I think that is barely visible in the photo: PAT 80 on the top of the derailleur.
The white derailleur pulleys may also not be original, but nearly all Nuovo Record rear derailleur pulleys have cracked due to age, so the upgrade is fine. If Campagnolo pulleys, they could be a C-Record or similar type, although I'd wonder why they would have been replaced in the 80's or 90's.
Anyway, a couple of non-original components, but I think they work well with the bike.
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there has been a lot of discussion about Colnago Super dating, and the link i posted (might not work due to BF linking restrictions) has been well researched and "documented" (not my site, that's just the general concensus).
here are the detail "changes" for '80, both of which are evident on your bike:
1980
- Fluted seat stay caps engraved COLNAGO and straight seat stays (no longer biconical shape)
- Brake bridge with square boss for recessed brake bolt
it also looks like yours has nutted brake calipers, where they "should" be recessed.
almost looks like the previous owner has used brake cables for shifter cables, so perhaps they used shifter cables for brake cables? you might want to look into that.
I also have a Super from this same year range. very nice ride, i love it a lot.
here are the detail "changes" for '80, both of which are evident on your bike:
1980
- Fluted seat stay caps engraved COLNAGO and straight seat stays (no longer biconical shape)
- Brake bridge with square boss for recessed brake bolt
it also looks like yours has nutted brake calipers, where they "should" be recessed.
almost looks like the previous owner has used brake cables for shifter cables, so perhaps they used shifter cables for brake cables? you might want to look into that.
I also have a Super from this same year range. very nice ride, i love it a lot.
thanks to both of you for providing these info. Additional pics are on the way.
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there has been a lot of discussion about Colnago Super dating, and the link i posted (might not work due to BF linking restrictions) has been well researched and "documented" (not my site, that's just the general concensus).
here are the detail "changes" for '80, both of which are evident on your bike:
1980
- Fluted seat stay caps engraved COLNAGO and straight seat stays (no longer biconical shape)
- Brake bridge with square boss for recessed brake bolt
it also looks like yours has nutted brake calipers, where they "should" be recessed.
almost looks like the previous owner has used brake cables for shifter cables, so perhaps they used shifter cables for brake cables? you might want to look into that.
I also have a Super from this same year range. very nice ride, i love it a lot.
here are the detail "changes" for '80, both of which are evident on your bike:
1980
- Fluted seat stay caps engraved COLNAGO and straight seat stays (no longer biconical shape)
- Brake bridge with square boss for recessed brake bolt
it also looks like yours has nutted brake calipers, where they "should" be recessed.
almost looks like the previous owner has used brake cables for shifter cables, so perhaps they used shifter cables for brake cables? you might want to look into that.
I also have a Super from this same year range. very nice ride, i love it a lot.
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Btw what is barely visible in the background is a $30 bike repair stand I gor at Lidl holding this beauty I removed the chain on purpose because it was not in great shape, I measured a brand new KMC chain but haven’t installed it yet since I was not sure how to proceed - sell as is / sell after some cleaning/lubrication/ or restore and keep.
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The decals are easily obtained from a couple of sources ( I used H Lloyd, but these are so popular to repaint that the decals pop up all over the place.)
So you won't get any restoration money or your time involved back on a sale, but you can tell whoever is buying it that it's not a huge job. I would definitely sell as is.
...or maybe sell the frame and keep the parts package in hopes of finding a frame only in my own size.
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I had thought I saw the "80" on the derailleur.
https://vintagecannondale.com/info/campagnolo/
That gives you a 1978 crankset and a 1980 rear derailleur. And, probably somewhat newer derailleur pulleys.
The early Nuovo Record Front derailleur cages also had no holes. Yours has 3 holes:
VeloBase.com - Component: Campagnolo Nuovo Record 0104007 (1982 - 1987, 3-hole standard band)
That dates it to 1982 to 1985.
Overall it isn't a big deal, but it may mean the bike was restored, or assembled from parts at some point in the past, or has had a history of heavy use and worn parts.
https://vintagecannondale.com/info/campagnolo/
1973 – 1979 The year of crank manufacture is the last digit in a diamond
The early Nuovo Record Front derailleur cages also had no holes. Yours has 3 holes:
VeloBase.com - Component: Campagnolo Nuovo Record 0104007 (1982 - 1987, 3-hole standard band)
That dates it to 1982 to 1985.
Overall it isn't a big deal, but it may mean the bike was restored, or assembled from parts at some point in the past, or has had a history of heavy use and worn parts.
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My Superissimo is no older than '83 based on the SR RD. I have no reason to doubt it is not the first on the bike. Wish mine had the fluted caps, much nicer. Totally different decals
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Lovely bike. I dig that color of paint. Mine is gold.
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I think $1200 is reaching, but mainly because of the condition of some of the components or their hardware. Cleaned up? Could fetch a grand - but it is on the small size, so...you never know.
OP: In the interests of full disclosure (of what I can tell about your bike from the photos), I'd say the frame/fork is from around 1980-81 based on the foil "chrome" chainstay decal. Those didn't stay around long as the treatment was deemed cheap; that feedback got back to Colnago. Frame/fork is likely built for recessed brake fittings; the current setup is a compromise, and never having tried such a setup I can't give feedback on how well it might work. The Cinelli XA stem looks to be mated to a Cinelli Giro d'Italia bar, and the brake levers are later Record or Athena/Veloce. The pedals are pretty much paperweights today
However! The frame really is in fantastic shape. The bits of surface rust will come off easily (lots of rust-removal threads here on the Forum); I myself cleaned up worse than what currently graces your fork crown from a Bianchi I bought last summer. The overall paint looks great and seems to need only spot cleaning, a bit of rust-removal and a polish. The decals - except the for the easy-to-replace Columbus decal - also look to be in fine shape. The paint and decals are obviously original. The remaining parts just need some polishing and rust-removal. How worn is the sidewall of that rear rim? Hard to tell from the photos, but to me that's the worst of the wear, and it may well be more cosmetic than anything else.
You can turn it into something special without too much effort or expenditure.
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OP: In the interests of full disclosure (of what I can tell about your bike from the photos), I'd say the frame/fork is from around 1980-81 based on the foil "chrome" chainstay decal. Those didn't stay around long as the treatment was deemed cheap; that feedback got back to Colnago. Frame/fork is likely built for recessed brake fittings; the current setup is a compromise, and never having tried such a setup I can't give feedback on how well it might work. The Cinelli XA stem looks to be mated to a Cinelli Giro d'Italia bar, and the brake levers are later Record or Athena/Veloce. The pedals are pretty much paperweights today
However! The frame really is in fantastic shape. The bits of surface rust will come off easily (lots of rust-removal threads here on the Forum); I myself cleaned up worse than what currently graces your fork crown from a Bianchi I bought last summer. The overall paint looks great and seems to need only spot cleaning, a bit of rust-removal and a polish. The decals - except the for the easy-to-replace Columbus decal - also look to be in fine shape. The paint and decals are obviously original. The remaining parts just need some polishing and rust-removal. How worn is the sidewall of that rear rim? Hard to tell from the photos, but to me that's the worst of the wear, and it may well be more cosmetic than anything else.
You can turn it into something special without too much effort or expenditure.
DD
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1976 Colnago Super
Bike's components alone are worth the price! Beauty.
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I don't know who was making the "big" decisions at Colnago 1980-83 but they goofed here and there.
The foil faux chrome chainstay decoration... can you say contempt for the buyer?
The COLNAGO stamping on the chainstay where it gets covered by the big ring... they did fix that eventually.
Maybe Ernesto got bored?
Mtb's were having a field day, I'm sure not a terrific time to be known for road bikes.
Yes, Colnago did try 26" wheeled off-road bikes... did not catch on.
about 1984, they were thinking again.
The foil faux chrome chainstay decoration... can you say contempt for the buyer?
The COLNAGO stamping on the chainstay where it gets covered by the big ring... they did fix that eventually.
Maybe Ernesto got bored?
Mtb's were having a field day, I'm sure not a terrific time to be known for road bikes.
Yes, Colnago did try 26" wheeled off-road bikes... did not catch on.
about 1984, they were thinking again.
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Got this assembled, cabled up, and out the door today...
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^^^^
...fork looks bent.
...fork looks bent.