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Old 12-20-11, 06:46 PM
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Does Polishing Increase Value?

I have a C-Record group I got off a bike I bought at an auction. The condition is very nice, but the cranks do have some scratches on them, as any 25 year old crankset would.

I can wet sand them down and polish them to a mirror and re-apply decals. Would this increase the value, ruin the value or leave it unchanged?

Here is what the crank looks like now.

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I personally do not care for parts that are polished like that. I think it removes too mush of the anodizing which is ment to protect the part.

C-rec sells pretty well even with a few belmishes. what model brakes do you have?
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Originally Posted by Bianchigirll View Post
C-rec sells pretty well even with a few belmishes. what model brakes do you have?
Delta, the pride and joy of the collection.

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Most would probably rather have them original, but if you can manage a professional job and get them looking perfect someone might want them for a show bike.

The Delta brakes look to be in great shape.
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if your intent is to sell them, it works really well to polish parts to a high shine. Even parts that had that beautiful campagnolo hazy anodization. Disturbing, but that's the way it is.
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Those aren't decals, but I guess you could replace them with decals.
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IMO, polishing, and especially removing the logos, destroys the value.
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In the current market, polished brings more money. Long term, original will have the highest value IMHO, just like most collectibles. Just like higher end antique furniture: nicely refinished, value is X. With original worn finish, 10X. Shot myself in the foot on a lot of antique furniture I have.
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Originally Posted by Ex Pres View Post
Those aren't decals, but I guess you could replace them with decals.
Right, I believe they are painted on under a clear coat.

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Old 12-21-11, 12:10 PM
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Because without logos it's just a regular crankset that's no better than any other.
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Originally Posted by Standard Issue View Post
Because without logos it's just a regular crankset that's no better than any other.
This can start another discussion, do people buy Campagnolo for the name or the performance?

I think that someone who is going to buy these components (vintage Campagnolo) will know what they are buying, that said, I think they will want the C-Record components for the quality and style more than the name.

Anyway, I'll find out in 4 1/2 days, the stuff is on eBay now.

https://www.ebay.ca/sch/w98seeng/m.ht...id=p4340.l2562

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Everything's relative. Polishing away logo's is bad but conditions everything. At a certain point reconditioning i.e. polishing is needed to maximize returns.

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How did you polish them without loosing the logos?
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Everything's relative. Polishing away logo's is bad but conditions everything. At a certain point reconditioning i.e. polishing is needed to maximize returns.
This is, pretty much, how I see things also. Like T-Mar, I believe that absolutely original is best, but absolutely original does deteriorate with the passing of time, use and, certainly, abuse.

Personally, I hate anodized components and have few qualms about removing the coating and polishing away. However, it that component is laser etched, as are the Campys presented by the OP are, polishing becomes less of an option.

Anyway, that's how I see it and, for what it is worth, I am a sucker for "bling".
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Originally Posted by randyjawa View Post
However, it that component is laser etched, as are the Campys presented by the OP are, polishing becomes less of an option.
This I did not know. Good thing I didn't polish them and replace it with a decal.


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Old 12-22-11, 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Drummerboy1975 View Post
How did you polish them without loosing the logos?
The logos are engraved on my set which happen to be 1st generation C Record, subsequent versions had etched or printed logos. Although my logos are engraved I can tell you tell only 1200 and 2000 grit sandpaper got near the logos and I only did that to achieve a consistent finish.
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Originally Posted by miamijim View Post
only 1200 and 2000 grit sandpaper got near the logos and I only did that to achieve a consistent finish.
I was thinking the same thing, tape off the logos, but there are some scratches already though the logos so it would goofy.

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You can't tape off the logos on etched/printed cranks as the entire crank is clear anodized. If you do the taped off area will be much more dull than the polished area. With etched/painted cranks it's all or nothing, the cranks in question are $50-75 cranks in that condition.
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I started to polish an XTR crankset because of all the shoe rub on it. About 3/4 of the way through it doesn't look too bad. I asked about the C-Record crankset because I thought the value would be higher than the XTR crank.

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Don't know that the analogy is perfect, but as a former coin collector, I can attest that polishing collectible coins makes them much less valuable and desireable. Even coins in "perfect" condition are sometimes frowned upon when mixing them in with a collection of more "aesthetically challenged" coins.

I can see that happening on a bike. Wouldn't shiny, pristine components look a little out of place on a frame with nicely aged patina?
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Wouldn't shiny, pristine components look a little out of place on a frame with nicely aged patina?
And here-in lies one of the problems when one asks him/herself Should I Paint My Bike?

To polish or not to polish? That will always depend on the "as found" condition of the component. If it is all scuffed up to begin with, why not polish it? In the world of shiny vs scuffed up, there are a lot more buyers looking for shiny, in my opinion.
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Part of the allure of miamijim's crank and bb set are the photos. They are on backgrounds that bring out the silver and shine. They are also lit well.

The other photos might be of equivalent cranks, but the photos are dimly lit, partially out of focus, and on poor backgrounds.

The same part in the same condition will sell for a lot more with good pictures. You are better off setting up a good photo shoot than polishing, I think.
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