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Old 06-13-15, 07:48 AM
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Non-Italian race frames

I've mainly owned Italian bikes, I like riding race geometry frames. I never thought much about non-Italian frames until I rode my Pro-Miyata. What other brands have I overlooked that have this type of geometry?
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Medici Pro Strada. Still under rated. I have one from mid 80's that I have owned since new. Very nice riding bike and I raced it for years. Had the frame re painted a year ago.

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RB-1's still have big following.
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In the US Trek, Canondale and Specialized made fairly nice race frames with classsic Italian racing geomtry during the 80's.
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Didn't you have a Centurion Semi-Pro?
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Yep, just curious about others. I have never considered Miyata, until I rode one, I love the way it rides and was just wondering what else is out there. Not really looking to buy anything, but would like to broaden my field for next time.
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dutch, belgian, french, swiss , british .. US & Canada, Japan etc.

the frames can be made by individuals , components take a factory ..
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Well, the frame you sold me, for example..... (any excuse, right?)



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I rode this guy one time before it became mine. The bike was very quick and nimble, impressively so. However, I am not positive of its pedigree, but it is one heck of a fine English bicycle. So far, my research suggests it to be a 1968 Geoffrey Butler, probably built by Cliff Shrubb. It looks to be race geometry or design, lacking any eyelets for fenders or racks...



I still have the frame set (56cm) but little intention of building it up. Perhaps it need to go into the for sale forum with the other stuff I am saying good bye to...
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Looks great Rob. I would love to one day get a true race frame with a number hanger.
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90s Merlins...I dare you to find a nicer ride.
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I've ridden a fair number of different bikes, but this (OK, I'm biased), is by far my favorite:



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Cannondale Criterium Series, rocks the planet. For the serious only.
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Schwinn (I'm serious). The high end 80s stuff.
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Originally Posted by curbtender View Post
RB-1's still have big following.
This

Originally Posted by icepick_trotsky View Post
Schwinn (I'm serious). The high end 80s stuff.
This

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Cannondale Criterium Series, rocks the planet. For the serious only.
This

Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake View Post
90s Merlins...I dare you to find a nicer ride.
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Tons, Shawn.

Panasonic's Team Europe and Team USA, the upper end Raleighs, the Miyata, Fuji Team Pro's, Cannondale's slice & dice frames. There were a lot of steel racing frames in a very competitive market where the consumers simply couldn't swing a dead cat without hitting a really good frame.

Not only that, you have an '85 Merckx. There were Gazelles and Batavus frames, Canopus from South America. Curiosity could break the bank.

Suffice it to say, in my opinion, there were so many really good non-Italian race frames, especially from the 80's and early 90's, it would be very hard to pinpoint any specifics. There are too many to list, and many, many are up to the Italians in quality and performance, if not panache.
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What is distinctive about Italian race bike geometry?
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What is distinctive about Italian race bike geometry?
Steeper frame angles, shorter-rake fork, shorter wheelbase, slightly smaller frame size, suited to the sprint-centered racing the Italians were known for, versus French race bike geometry (aka stage race geometry).
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What is distinctive about Italian race bike geometry?
No clue. I make it up as I go along, but they do ride cool.
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Here is another: Trek 760 line. Full 531c frame, road race geo, very light and the lovely Campy parts.
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Mid-80's Team Fuji.
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Zieleman.

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