Non-Italian race frames
06-13-15 | 07:48 AM
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Non-Italian race frames
I've mainly owned Italian bikes, I like riding race geometry frames. I never thought much about non-Italian frames until I rode my Pro-Miyata. What other brands have I overlooked that have this type of geometry?
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06-13-15 | 08:28 AM
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06-13-15 | 09:40 AM
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In the US Trek, Canondale and Specialized made fairly nice race frames with classsic Italian racing geomtry during the 80's.
06-13-15 | 10:03 AM
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Yep, just curious about others. I have never considered Miyata, until I rode one, I love the way it rides and was just wondering what else is out there. Not really looking to buy anything, but would like to broaden my field for next time.
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06-13-15 | 10:47 AM
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I rode this guy one time before it became mine. The bike was very quick and nimble, impressively so. However, I am not positive of its pedigree, but it is one heck of a fine English bicycle. So far, my research suggests it to be a 1968 Geoffrey Butler, probably built by Cliff Shrubb. It looks to be race geometry or design, lacking any eyelets for fenders or racks...
I still have the frame set (56cm) but little intention of building it up. Perhaps it need to go into the for sale forum with the other stuff I am saying good bye to...
I still have the frame set (56cm) but little intention of building it up. Perhaps it need to go into the for sale forum with the other stuff I am saying good bye to...
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06-13-15 | 11:03 AM
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06-13-15 | 01:16 PM
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06-13-15 | 01:41 PM
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Tons, Shawn.
Panasonic's Team Europe and Team USA, the upper end Raleighs, the Miyata, Fuji Team Pro's, Cannondale's slice & dice frames. There were a lot of steel racing frames in a very competitive market where the consumers simply couldn't swing a dead cat without hitting a really good frame.
Not only that, you have an '85 Merckx. There were Gazelles and Batavus frames, Canopus from South America. Curiosity could break the bank.
Suffice it to say, in my opinion, there were so many really good non-Italian race frames, especially from the 80's and early 90's, it would be very hard to pinpoint any specifics. There are too many to list, and many, many are up to the Italians in quality and performance, if not panache.
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Tons, Shawn.
Panasonic's Team Europe and Team USA, the upper end Raleighs, the Miyata, Fuji Team Pro's, Cannondale's slice & dice frames. There were a lot of steel racing frames in a very competitive market where the consumers simply couldn't swing a dead cat without hitting a really good frame.
Not only that, you have an '85 Merckx. There were Gazelles and Batavus frames, Canopus from South America. Curiosity could break the bank.
Suffice it to say, in my opinion, there were so many really good non-Italian race frames, especially from the 80's and early 90's, it would be very hard to pinpoint any specifics. There are too many to list, and many, many are up to the Italians in quality and performance, if not panache.
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06-13-15 | 01:43 PM
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What is distinctive about Italian race bike geometry?
06-13-15 | 01:50 PM
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Here is another: Trek 760 line. Full 531c frame, road race geo, very light and the lovely Campy parts.
06-13-15 | 02:44 PM
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06-13-15 | 02:59 PM
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06-16-15 | 07:07 AM
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as CV-6 said Jan de Reus
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