Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Classic & Vintage
Reload this Page >

"Irish" Three Speed Winter Project (First Post)

Search
Notices
Classic & Vintage This forum is to discuss the many aspects of classic and vintage bicycles, including musclebikes, lightweights, middleweights, hi-wheelers, bone-shakers, safety bikes and much more.

"Irish" Three Speed Winter Project (First Post)

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 09-10-15 | 06:47 PM
  #1  
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Sep 2015
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
From: Cork, Ireland
"Irish" Three Speed Winter Project (First Post)

Hi everyone,

I'm a long time lurker on the English 3 Speed thread and have finally taken the plunge and "invested" in a very beaten up Raleigh Wayfarer.
The whole idea being that this will be my winter project (in Ireland the short wet winters days usually run from September to May )

The reason I went with the Wayfarer was because
1) It had a 19" fame, (I'm 5'6' and I've always suspected my 51cm road bike of being a tad too tall.)
2) It had the all important Sturmey Archer 3 Speed AW hub from 1977, 2 years older than me.
3) It had caliber brakes.

Here in Ireland old Rod brake bikes are a little more common, we call them High Nellies, but what I have seen are all single speed.

I would like this bike to be a bit of an all rounder, somewhere between a path racer and city bike, so am trying to decide what Bars, wheels and rubber to go for.....
The Chrome is shot on both wheels and the bars. In fact I suspect the tubes and Tyres (raleigh Records) are the originals.

The plan is to
1) Strip the frame de-rust and repaint.
2) Rebuild the wheels myself with the Original Sturmey Archer front and rear hubs once serviced (Suggested rims and spokes?)
3) Service Bottom bracket and head set
3) Purchase and fit a new stem and bars

but must keep the cost down to a minimum as baby no. 2 is due in November.

Here are some photos

As I found her


Rusty Mudguards, chainguards etc stripped



All comments kindly received.
Stewart
Attached Images
File Type: jpg
IMG_0549.jpg (86.9 KB, 10 views)
File Type: jpg
IMG_0564.jpg (94.3 KB, 13 views)

Last edited by rabbitstew; 09-10-15 at 07:31 PM. Reason: Better Photos
rabbitstew is offline  
Reply
Old 09-11-15 | 08:35 AM
  #2  
3speedslow's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 9,479
Likes: 1,303
From: Jacksonville, NC

Bikes: A few

Welcome ! I hope it turns out to be an easy winter.
3speedslow is offline  
Reply
Old 09-11-15 | 08:42 AM
  #3  
bikemig's Avatar
Senior Member
Titanium Club Membership
10 Anniversary
Community Builder
Community Influencer
 
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 21,823
Likes: 5,781
From: Middle Earth (aka IA)

Bikes: A bunch of old bikes and a few new ones

Very nice but what about the fenders and chain guard? If you haven't built up the wheels yet, I'd strongly recommend alloy 26 x 1 3/8 rims over steel. The bike will perform better and brake better. What about your lighting system?
bikemig is offline  
Reply
Old 09-11-15 | 08:51 AM
  #4  
bwilli88's Avatar
Not lost wanderer.
Titanium Club Membership
10 Anniversary
 
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 3,686
Likes: 1,425
From: Lancaster, Pa

Bikes: Cambodia bike,2012 Fuji Stratos...

Looks like it will be a nice ride.
__________________
72 Geoffery Butler, 72 Gugificatizion Witcomb, 72 Raleigh Gran Sport SS, 74 Raleigh GrandPrix dingle speed, 74 Raleigh international, 81 Centurion Pro-Tour, 85 Gazelle Primeur, 29rBMX, Surley Steamroller 650b




bwilli88 is offline  
Reply
Old 09-11-15 | 10:14 AM
  #5  
Senior Member
Sheldon Brown Memorial - Titanium
20 Anniversary
Community Builder
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 18,822
Likes: 11,675
I've also found that these frames easily fit 700c wheels if you want to go in that direction. Original brakes had quite long reach, so you'll need some with shorter reach.
nlerner is offline  
Reply
Old 09-11-15 | 02:31 PM
  #6  
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Sep 2015
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
From: Cork, Ireland
I'll be cleaning up the mud guards and chain guard in time but want to get it rolling first.
For the wheels I'll probably go 26x1 3/8 alright. For budget reasons if nothing else as the brakes will be reused.
Any suggestions on value alloy rims?
With regards to the bars I assume north road will be the most versatile?
The bar that are on it are fixed so only the height is adjustable plus the chrome is shot.

Last edited by rabbitstew; 09-11-15 at 04:04 PM.
rabbitstew is offline  
Reply
Old 09-15-15 | 06:43 PM
  #7  
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Sep 2015
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
From: Cork, Ireland
Just for the record, 1970's Raleigh Paint laughs in the face of Nitromors.
Am I right to assume it's enamel?
Still, 80 grit is making easy enough work of it.

Last edited by rabbitstew; 09-15-15 at 06:47 PM.
rabbitstew is offline  
Reply
Old 09-15-15 | 08:49 PM
  #8  
BigChief's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Anniversary
 
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 3,241
Likes: 106
Welcome! Looks like a fun project you have there. Since the rims are shot, I agree a pair of Sun CR 18 alloy rims would be well worth the expense.
With spokes, I've found it easier to to take an original to a wheel builder and have them find the proper style and cut and thread them for you than to try to find the right spokes online. I think the original calipers with a new set of Kool Stop pads would work well enough, especially with the alloy rims.
Keep the pics coming. It's always fun to see how projects are coming along.
BigChief is offline  
Reply
Old 09-15-15 | 09:22 PM
  #9  
arex's Avatar
Abuse Magnet
 
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,881
Likes: 188
From: Colorado

Bikes: '91 Mtn Tek Vertical, '74 Raleigh Sports, '72 Raleigh Twenty, '84 Univega Gran Turismo, '09 Surly Karate Monkey, '92 Burley Rock-n-Roll, '86 Miyata 310, '76 Raleigh Shopper

Cool stuff! Good luck with this project...you'll really love the outcome.
arex is offline  
Reply
Old 09-18-15 | 06:50 PM
  #10  
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Sep 2015
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
From: Cork, Ireland
So tonight I disassembled, cleaned, lubed and reassembled the Sturmey Archer AW hub, with the thanks to a great video from RJ the bike guy HERE.
I also cleaned an lubed the SA front hub and polished a few rusty bits.
The chrome I de-rusted with a Brass wire brush and polished with WD40 and tinfoil (aluminium foil)

Here are some Before and After shots





rabbitstew is offline  
Reply
Old 09-18-15 | 07:02 PM
  #11  
3speedslow's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 9,479
Likes: 1,303
From: Jacksonville, NC

Bikes: A few

Love that English chrome !
3speedslow is offline  
Reply
Old 09-20-15 | 07:09 PM
  #12  
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Sep 2015
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
From: Cork, Ireland
I got the first few coats of primer on the forks this evening and it started me think about colours.
I plan to paint the frame black and really like the look of the raleigh record tires (new ones needed) and white WECO pedals. The pedals should come up a treat and spin quite freely (doesn't look like they can be broken down to service)
Would the members here recommend gloss black, Matt black enamel or what gives the best "period" effect?
The head badge has also got me thinking about accent colours in gold or red, maybe pinstripe the lugs?
I want the look to be subtle and Classic.
rabbitstew is offline  
Reply
Old 09-20-15 | 07:21 PM
  #13  
brianinc-ville's Avatar
Senior Member
15 Anniversary
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,399
Likes: 62
From: Greenville, NC
Sun CR-18 rims (polished, not matte) are very good and easy to find in 590mm. As for the bars: I'd stick with North Road. You could even flip 'em over for a speedier ride.. Just be aware that if you use a non-Raleigh stem, you'll probably need non-Raleigh bars, too, as the clamps (though not the quills) are different sizes (see Sheldon's note here).
brianinc-ville is offline  
Reply
Old 09-20-15 | 07:31 PM
  #14  
Henry III's Avatar
Senior Member
15 Anniversary
 
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 3,189
Likes: 62
From: The Thumb, MI
I built up a Netherlands built Royal that was a single speed coaster city bike into track inspired gravel coaster brake bike. I kept the original 26x1-3/8 wheels as the chrome was still decent but since I'm not using rim brakes it's not a big issue besides the weight.

Like Neal said. These bikes fit 700c wheels fine as I built a BSA and Hercules into fixed gear bikes many moons ago with no issues. Steering is a little slack but look what we're playing with as you can't be too greedy. Haha. If it was me and was dumping some money in this I would go with standard 26" wheels or 700's as the tire selection for these 1-3/8 rims isn't the greatest. Yeah tires are dirt cheap but also pretty crummy.
Henry III is offline  
Reply
Old 09-23-15 | 07:01 PM
  #15  
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Sep 2015
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
From: Cork, Ireland
So a little more polishing tonight on the front Brake Calliper and Lever.
The Calliper came up a treat but the lever is really badly pitted.
I will have to add a new set of retro levers to the shopping list.






Speaking of the shopping list, here is the best price I could find on Amazon.co.uk for 36 hole CR 18 polished alloy rims.





I can't find them online from any Irish suppliers but most certainly will not be paying £124 ($190 US) for a pair!!
rabbitstew is offline  
Reply
Old 09-27-15 | 05:14 PM
  #16  
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Sep 2015
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
From: Cork, Ireland
So next job is my saddle.
The original saddle's plastic was torn but the frame is in good condition.
I think I may try reupholster it with new leather.
Any ideas on how best to do that?

Last edited by rabbitstew; 09-27-15 at 05:20 PM.
rabbitstew is offline  
Reply
Old 09-27-15 | 05:26 PM
  #17  
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Sep 2015
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
From: Cork, Ireland
Also, should I have any issues with the frame or brakes I have if I decide to go with 26 x 1.75 rims?
They are easier to come by here and much better value.
rabbitstew is offline  
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Bikedued
Classic & Vintage
20
01-28-21 10:36 AM
baldilocks
Winter Cycling
8
01-04-19 03:40 PM
SeraphimF
Winter Cycling
22
10-28-16 09:25 PM
Heatherbikes
Classic & Vintage
67
02-12-12 09:16 PM
rookgirl
Classic & Vintage
34
10-11-11 07:44 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.