Two rules
09-12-15 | 08:50 PM
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Two rules
from Rivbike.com
from the Velominati
The Rivendell rules aren't really rules, they're "tips"
The Velominati rules are rules. But somewhat tongue-in-cheek. You gotta like rule V, no?
3 decades ago, I was more into suffering on a bike. Now, it feels good to push myself now and then, but I'm more into cycling for enjoyment now, and being an evangelist for cycling, so the "tips" are foremost in my mind.
Which do you prefer? Likes/dislikes of either?
from the Velominati
The Rivendell rules aren't really rules, they're "tips"
The Velominati rules are rules. But somewhat tongue-in-cheek. You gotta like rule V, no?
3 decades ago, I was more into suffering on a bike. Now, it feels good to push myself now and then, but I'm more into cycling for enjoyment now, and being an evangelist for cycling, so the "tips" are foremost in my mind.
Which do you prefer? Likes/dislikes of either?
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If someone tells you that you have enough bicycles and you don't need any more, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.
If someone tells you that you have enough bicycles and you don't need any more, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.
09-13-15 | 12:58 AM
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A lot of good stuff in both, obviously meant for completely different audiences. I'm more of the Rivendell Rules variety, but it's fun finding out where other people's heads are at; I have a new understanding of some of the characters I've met on group rides. 
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A race bike in any era is a highly personal choice that at its "best" balances the requirements of fit, weight, handling, durability and cost tempered by the willingness to toss it and oneself down the pavement at considerable speed. ~Bandera
09-13-15 | 02:37 AM
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Rivbike ones are great. Velominati.... I got to 30 and could imagine an opinionated angry journo in front of a keyboard venting about things. Seems like very personal opinions or thinks they heard other people talking about in a bar.
09-13-15 | 04:29 AM
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I always get a kick out of the Velominati rules as they are so tongue in cheek, though I suppose there are folks who take them seriously. I do like rule V as it seems to apply to so many aspects of our current society. That's the one that comes to mind most.
As to the Riv rules and numerous other lists - I find them all useful, get bits of something from them all. They are like a Piggly-Wiggly though: I don't buy everything in the store, just what I need at the time. And just like Wawa, my cart is unique, does not look just like what everyone else has selected.
(Ya'll know 'bout Piggly-Wiggly and Wawa doncha?)
As to the Riv rules and numerous other lists - I find them all useful, get bits of something from them all. They are like a Piggly-Wiggly though: I don't buy everything in the store, just what I need at the time. And just like Wawa, my cart is unique, does not look just like what everyone else has selected.
(Ya'll know 'bout Piggly-Wiggly and Wawa doncha?)
09-13-15 | 05:30 AM
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The Rivendell tips define the way I started riding. As a college student, too busy for other recreation, I started riding my bike to work a little recreation into my day. Their bikes and products they sell fit the style so I have a bunch now. I never have "gotten" the weekly club/charity ride pretend racing scene. I do it a few times a month but, really, why just ride back to the car?!!
Velomanati Rule #9 is this most important.
I love my Hunqapillar.
Marc
Velomanati Rule #9 is this most important.
I love my Hunqapillar.
Marc
09-13-15 | 07:02 AM
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09-13-15 | 07:03 AM
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from the Velominati
-Bandera
09-13-15 | 09:16 AM
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Velomanati Rule #9 is the most important.
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A race bike in any era is a highly personal choice that at its "best" balances the requirements of fit, weight, handling, durability and cost tempered by the willingness to toss it and oneself down the pavement at considerable speed. ~Bandera
A race bike in any era is a highly personal choice that at its "best" balances the requirements of fit, weight, handling, durability and cost tempered by the willingness to toss it and oneself down the pavement at considerable speed. ~Bandera
09-13-15 | 09:24 AM
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Bikes: It's complicated.
09-13-15 | 09:29 AM
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09-13-15 | 09:30 AM
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Bikes: It's complicated.
I'm concerned. If you're a PNW'er, your kit includes fenders and rain gear.
Does this negate rule 9?
Discuss.
Does this negate rule 9?
Discuss.
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If someone tells you that you have enough bicycles and you don't need any more, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.
If someone tells you that you have enough bicycles and you don't need any more, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.
09-13-15 | 09:31 AM
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Commence to jigglin’ huh?!?!
"But hey, always love to hear from opinionated amateurs." -says some guy to Mr. Marshall.
Commence to jigglin’ huh?!?!
"But hey, always love to hear from opinionated amateurs." -says some guy to Mr. Marshall.
09-13-15 | 09:40 AM
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Bikes: It's complicated.
Let us not forget that Rule 12 is invoked here often.
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If someone tells you that you have enough bicycles and you don't need any more, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.
If someone tells you that you have enough bicycles and you don't need any more, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.
09-13-15 | 10:03 AM
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I wear shorts to pad my behind. I wear jerseys for the rear pockets and sometimes they do not match my bike. My socks do not match anything. I am a Rebel!
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09-13-15 | 10:58 AM
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This is covered by a rule Velominions forgot, viz: "bicycles are athletic equipment. You must never, under any circumstances, use a bicycle for transportation."
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09-13-15 | 12:29 PM
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@gugie: Above comment notwithstanding, anyone who rides all seasons up there is a badass. Period. Fenders or no.
[MENTION=45088]nlerner[/MENTION]: That does show the difference in tone between the two. Once you get past the top-level words, you get "learn/like" versus "may/must." It's not just the 41... it's the Authoritarian 41.
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A race bike in any era is a highly personal choice that at its "best" balances the requirements of fit, weight, handling, durability and cost tempered by the willingness to toss it and oneself down the pavement at considerable speed. ~Bandera
A race bike in any era is a highly personal choice that at its "best" balances the requirements of fit, weight, handling, durability and cost tempered by the willingness to toss it and oneself down the pavement at considerable speed. ~Bandera
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09-13-15 | 12:45 PM
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09-13-15 | 01:44 PM
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Alright! Now when I commute to work on cold, rainy days, from now on, that'll be a rule 9 day!
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If someone tells you that you have enough bicycles and you don't need any more, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.
If someone tells you that you have enough bicycles and you don't need any more, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.