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Old 09-22-15, 04:35 AM
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Since we are on to page two, I might as well put up a picture of "Sporty" my '71 Super Sport Campagnolo project. I really should ride it more.

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Originally Posted by The Golden Boy
Super awesome bikes!

I've always loved fillet brazed frames- I love that look of the tubes flowing into each other.

Thanks for posting them.




Do those Huret ratcheting shifters have a really fine, "micro-ratchet" feel to them? Like finer ratchets than the typical Suntour ratcheting shifter?

I have a set of Sachs/Huret ratcheting shifters- those are awesome- they're shaped differently- but the action is impeccable.

Golden Boy...thanks...and no problem...I will be putting some more on here soon...my son rides a Super Sport, as does a friend of his (I helped them get into these!)...and he is getting my pictures of those as well.

On the ratcheting...I had not noticed it until it was mentioned...but...yes!
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I need to get around to shooting an 'after'.

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I need to get around to shooting an 'after'.

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Looks pretty nice! Hopefully it looks more like a bike now as opposed to a collection of parts!!!! :-)
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Originally Posted by Metacortex
The shifters used on the '76-'78 Superiors had a patented "retro-friction" clutch design, with a ball-detent adding a "ratchet" feel. They were discussed in more detail here: https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...ion-model.html
Oh, goodness... I need a set of those...
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Can someone tell me if the term 'electroforge welding' applies to many of these old Schwinns?
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Can someone tell me if the term 'electroforge welding' applies to many of these old Schwinns?
The bikes discussed in this thread had frames built from 4130 chrome-moly tubing that were fillet-brazed by hand. The more common Schwinn bikes at the time had frames built using low-carbon 1010 steel electro-forged frames.
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The bikes discussed in this thread had frames built from 4130 chrome-moly tubing that were fillet-brazed by hand. The more common Schwinn bikes at the time had frames built using low-carbon 1010 steel electro-forged frames.
Funny, I never knew the Super Sport was fillet brazed. Thanks for the Sheldon reference.
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Originally Posted by Wildwood
Funny, I never knew the Super Sport was fillet brazed.
Either did I back in the day. I remember looking at the Super Sport and Continental back in '73 and they looked pretty much the same to me. Schwinn didn't really do much to market the differences between the fillet-brazed and electro-forged models besides a terse line in the catalogs. Looking back that may have been intentional given that they were hand-built frames. I don't think anybody else was producing hand-built fillet-brazed frames by the thousands if not tens of thousands, and I'm not sure how many more they would have been able to produce if the demand had been greater at the time.
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I need to get around to shooting an 'after'.

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Very nice! I assume you are going to put the components from your 24" frame onto that 22?
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Hope you are OK! Note that your Superior came with Weinmann rims with a hooked bead, which were used by Schwinn in late '74 and later on the Sports Tourer and Superior.
You are indeed correct about those rims. And thank you, I am doing ok. I'm just a little sore and annoyed with the guy who ran into me. I am taking the bike in tomorrow to get another set of eyes to confirm that her frame and fork are intact.

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Dang-it!

So in post 26 at the top of this page I noted that I needed to ride "Sporty" (my '71 Super Sport with the extreme makeover) more. So yesterday I resolved all day that when I came home I'd air up the tires and go for a 20 or more mile ride before dark. I didn't make it 10 feet beyond the garage door! Something was wrong!

Turned out the nut in the jockey wheel had unthreaded, dropping it to the pavement, misplacing the bearing cover, and letting one arm of the cage pivot into the back of the freewheel! Hopefully nothing has bent!

The RD is a Nuovo Gran Sport with a @Henry III custom made long arm attached to handle my wide range freewheel and triple crankset. Maybe tonight I'll have time to see if I can sort all this out.

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Dang-it!

So in post 26 at the top of this page I noted that I needed to ride "Sporty" (my '71 Super Sport with the extreme makeover) more. So yesterday I resolved all day that when I came home I'd air up the tires and go for a 20 or more mile ride before dark. I didn't make it 10 feet beyond the garage door! Something was wrong!

Turned out the nut in the jockey wheel had unthreaded, dropping it to the pavement, misplacing the bearing cover, and letting one arm of the cage pivot into the back of the freewheel! Hopefully nothing has bent!

The RD is a Nuovo Gran Sport with a @Henry III custom made long arm attached to handle my wide range freewheel and triple crankset. Maybe tonight I'll have time to see if I can sort all this out.
good luck...ready to hear that Sporty is back on the road!
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good luck...ready to hear that Sporty is back on the road!
Should be a minor fix. Hopefully I don't get too distracted and pull the chain to clean and lube and then find myself onto the chainrings and freewheel sprockets! I can really get OCD about a clean drivetrain! Even though I probably did a complete cleaning less then 100 miles ago!

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@pastorbobnlnh I hope it gets sorted out and back together with no damage!!!
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Originally Posted by wrk101
You need to add a Cimarron to your Schwinn fillet brazed list.

To me, the Cimarron is the ultimate in Schwinn's fillet brazed, with the crazy fillet brazed head tube and the remainder of the bike lugged steel. Kind of a "design by committee" bike.
Great point!

Which reminds me to add my High Sierra. Mine is an '88 model. Headtube, downtube and toptube all fillet brazed together. Other points of contact appear to be tig welded.



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Ok...promised you more...so...more gratuitous pics...



















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Originally Posted by pastorbobnlnh
Since we are on to page two, I might as well put up a picture of "Sporty" my '71 Super Sport Campagnolo project. I really should ride it more.


That's awesome. What a great looking bike.
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Originally Posted by pastorbobnlnh
Dang-it!

So in post 26 at the top of this page I noted that I needed to ride "Sporty" (my '71 Super Sport with the extreme makeover) more. So yesterday I resolved all day that when I came home I'd air up the tires and go for a 20 or more mile ride before dark. I didn't make it 10 feet beyond the garage door! Something was wrong!

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The RD is a Nuovo Gran Sport with a @Henry III custom made long arm attached to handle my wide range freewheel and triple crankset. Maybe tonight I'll have time to see if I can sort all this out.

That sucks PastorB! Best of luck untangling the mess, hope it's nothing major.
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Lovely!


I've "heard" that the decal shadow can be cleaned up with a Mr. Clean Magic Eraser- it doesn't damage the decal, and cleans up the shadow.
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Lovely!


I've "heard" that the decal shadow can be cleaned up with a Mr. Clean Magic Eraser- it doesn't damage the decal, and cleans up the shadow.
Sometimes the Magic Eraser does not work, but sometimes it works very well. This is the seat post decal from a 1959 Schwinn Tiger after the Magic Eraser

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Lovely!


I've "heard" that the decal shadow can be cleaned up with a Mr. Clean Magic Eraser- it doesn't damage the decal, and cleans up the shadow.
I've had great luck with the magic eraser. Cleaned up the decals on my 71 Super Sport nicely. This was a few years back and I don't have pictures of before.
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I scrubbed the crap out of my decals with Kitt Scratch Out and it took the yellow off.
Oh, and here's my new 1940 New World. Yeah, I Drewed it with wheels from an even older Raleigh club bike;

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I scrubbed the crap out of my decals with Kitt Scratch Out and it took the yellow off.
Oh, and here's my new 1940 New World. Yeah, I Drewed it with wheels from an even older Raleigh club bike;

The A-S&Co cottered chain rings are really neat.
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Very nice! I assume you are going to put the components from your 24" frame onto that 22?
Already done. Had the 22" blasted and PCd and it looks even better than the 24".
Anybody need an OEM 24" Super Sport?

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