The Classic & Vintage weigh-in
09-26-15 | 06:42 PM
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The Classic & Vintage weigh-in
Post what you got and total weight ~
Without getting into opinions of what matters and where shedding weight gives an advantage, I just thought it be fun to get a real weigh in. Kind of like fighters reading for the ring. Bike has to be dressed as ridden.
I'll start:
I've long gotten the weight weenie mentality out of my head but certainly appreciate the light weights. What I mean is my preference in chasing the components is not about lopping grams... or rather in the case of old stuff- pounds
Today was fun. Detoured and dropped by a fave LBS for a bit of 'show and tell' of this 1958 Vic Edwards in team Peugeot BP livery. I still have a few pieces to change out and ahemm... shed another 1/2 pound. Not like I'm trying but just a few neat vintage parts some maker of that era must have been conscience of weight. If going the whole 'hog' I'm confident to shredding another two pounds. But as it scales today, here's the old but handsome road warrior.
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1958 Vic Edwards - team Peugeot BP livery at idle by carrera247, on Flickr[/IMG]
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1958 Vic Edwards - team Peugeot BP livery - Wt 23 lbs 14 oz by carrera247, on Flickr[/IMG]
Without getting into opinions of what matters and where shedding weight gives an advantage, I just thought it be fun to get a real weigh in. Kind of like fighters reading for the ring. Bike has to be dressed as ridden.
I'll start:
I've long gotten the weight weenie mentality out of my head but certainly appreciate the light weights. What I mean is my preference in chasing the components is not about lopping grams... or rather in the case of old stuff- pounds
Today was fun. Detoured and dropped by a fave LBS for a bit of 'show and tell' of this 1958 Vic Edwards in team Peugeot BP livery. I still have a few pieces to change out and ahemm... shed another 1/2 pound. Not like I'm trying but just a few neat vintage parts some maker of that era must have been conscience of weight. If going the whole 'hog' I'm confident to shredding another two pounds. But as it scales today, here's the old but handsome road warrior.
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1958 Vic Edwards - team Peugeot BP livery at idle by carrera247, on Flickr[/IMG][IMG]
1958 Vic Edwards - team Peugeot BP livery - Wt 23 lbs 14 oz by carrera247, on Flickr[/IMG]
09-26-15 | 06:55 PM
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I do the time honored digital bath scale "stand on, grab bike, stand on again". I've weighed my 3 favorites in that manner and without seatbag, waterbottle/pump.
09-26-15 | 07:09 PM
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Do portly and spritely go together, 
. I've been enjoying the heck out of my new to me 1992 Trek 950. The bike just rides great over gravel and rough roads. The schwalbe 26 x 2.0 supreme touring tires handle really well over different surfaces. There's a lot to be said for running 50 psi over rough roads. The seller anatomica nsx is pretty comfy as well. This bike is a blast to ride and weighs, hmmm, right around 32 lbs:
. I've been enjoying the heck out of my new to me 1992 Trek 950. The bike just rides great over gravel and rough roads. The schwalbe 26 x 2.0 supreme touring tires handle really well over different surfaces. There's a lot to be said for running 50 psi over rough roads. The seller anatomica nsx is pretty comfy as well. This bike is a blast to ride and weighs, hmmm, right around 32 lbs:
09-26-15 | 07:25 PM
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Do portly and spritely go together, . I've been enjoying the heck out of my new to me 1992 Trek 950. The bike just rides great over gravel and rough roads. The schwalbe 26 x 2.0 supreme touring tires handle really well over different surfaces. There's a lot to be said for running 50 psi over rough roads. The seller anatomica nsx is pretty comfy as well. This bike is a blast to ride and weighs, hmmm, right around 32 lbs:
. I've been enjoying the heck out of my new to me 1992 Trek 950. The bike just rides great over gravel and rough roads. The schwalbe 26 x 2.0 supreme touring tires handle really well over different surfaces. There's a lot to be said for running 50 psi over rough roads. The seller anatomica nsx is pretty comfy as well. This bike is a blast to ride and weighs, hmmm, right around 32 lbs:
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09-26-15 | 08:33 PM
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'88 Cannondale Criterium as seen, 19.9lbs
'86 Trek 760 Pro Series, 21.6lbs
'77 Colnago Super, 21.5lbs
'86 Trek 760 Pro Series, 21.6lbs
'77 Colnago Super, 21.5lbs
09-26-15 | 08:48 PM
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What??? Only 2 wheels?
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Nice tandem. I'd say 51lbs sounds heavy except that a year or so ago we say a nice 90's-ish tandem (a Santana IIRC) that weighed about that.
Here is our Peugeot. I digital-bath-scaled it after building it up and it came in at a bit over 40lbs without the racks, handlebar bag, and panniers. Those panniers are heavy.
(This morning I weighed 156.7lbs. When I'm biking a lot I can burn calories faster than I can eat them.)
Here is our Peugeot. I digital-bath-scaled it after building it up and it came in at a bit over 40lbs without the racks, handlebar bag, and panniers. Those panniers are heavy.
(This morning I weighed 156.7lbs. When I'm biking a lot I can burn calories faster than I can eat them.)
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09-26-15 | 09:14 PM
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As they sit, ready to go, on my digital bathroom scale.
Guerciotti 23.4 Lbs
Paramount 23.2
Criterium 24.4
Coppi (70`s bike boom) 25.8
Guerciotti 23.4 Lbs
Paramount 23.2
Criterium 24.4
Coppi (70`s bike boom) 25.8
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09-26-15 | 09:39 PM
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09-26-15 | 09:39 PM
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09-27-15 | 02:28 AM
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These are the Actual Vintage Bicycle Weights of bicycles that I have owned, built and ridden. Only a couple come in under the 20 pound mark.
Heaviest owned, not counting some of the all cast iron roadsters of CCM origin...
Heaviest is/was this CCM Grand Turismo at a whopping 32 pounds 6 ounces...
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Heaviest owned, not counting some of the all cast iron roadsters of CCM origin...
Heaviest is/was this CCM Grand Turismo at a whopping 32 pounds 6 ounces...
Lightest is/was my ALAN at 19 pounds ten ounces...
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09-27-15 | 05:06 AM
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09-27-15 | 05:35 AM
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09-27-15 | 07:48 AM
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Nice tandem. I'd say 51lbs sounds heavy except that a year or so ago we say a nice 90's-ish tandem (a Santana IIRC) that weighed about that.
Here is our Peugeot. I digital-bath-scaled it after building it up and it came in at a bit over 40lbs without the racks, handlebar bag, and panniers. Those panniers are heavy.
(This morning I weighed 156.7lbs. When I'm biking a lot I can burn calories faster than I can eat them.)
Here is our Peugeot. I digital-bath-scaled it after building it up and it came in at a bit over 40lbs without the racks, handlebar bag, and panniers. Those panniers are heavy.
(This morning I weighed 156.7lbs. When I'm biking a lot I can burn calories faster than I can eat them.)
40 pounds is pretty dang respectable for a tandem, especially a vintage Peugeot. I could probably get rid of a bunch of weight by changing out the 27 inch 48h wheels, brooks saddles for something lighter, and getting rid of the kid stoker(as mentioned earlier). I doubt it would get down to 40 pounds though. The wheels are pretty portly though..
09-27-15 | 08:11 AM
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1985 Fuji Del Rey, specs from old online catalog: XL 25" frame, OEM weight: 24.2 lbs
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My old Fuji as is, weighs: 26 lbs.
09-27-15 | 08:53 AM
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What??? Only 2 wheels?
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Other bikes, let's see. I weighed all of these to the nearest pound, more or less.
Without the bag and spare tire, 23lbs. The big FW hurts. NR pedals aren't the lightest either.
25lbs.
24lbs.
A bit under 23lbs.
Ah, 28 or more. You don't want to know.
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09-27-15 | 09:38 AM
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Tandem + MTB + wife's city hybrid + Super Sport + Cannondale + Paramount + trailer = probably like 250 lb
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"Well, well!" said Holmes, impatiently. "A good cyclist does not need a high road. The moor is intersected with paths and the moon is at the full."
09-27-15 | 09:46 AM
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Jim
40 pounds is pretty dang respectable for a tandem, especially a vintage Peugeot. I could probably get rid of a bunch of weight by changing out the 27 inch 48h wheels, brooks saddles for something lighter, and getting rid of the kid stoker(as mentioned earlier). I doubt it would get down to 40 pounds though. The wheels are pretty portly though..
40 pounds is pretty dang respectable for a tandem, especially a vintage Peugeot. I could probably get rid of a bunch of weight by changing out the 27 inch 48h wheels, brooks saddles for something lighter, and getting rid of the kid stoker(as mentioned earlier). I doubt it would get down to 40 pounds though. The wheels are pretty portly though..
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[TD]Two UN55, Not counting eccentric[/TD]
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"Well, well!" said Holmes, impatiently. "A good cyclist does not need a high road. The moor is intersected with paths and the moon is at the full."
Genesis 49:16-17
"Well, well!" said Holmes, impatiently. "A good cyclist does not need a high road. The moor is intersected with paths and the moon is at the full."
