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seypat 10-29-15 08:08 PM

Out of all the famous musicians I have seen live, Clapton was the only one that was disappointing. Of course, his opening band was Buckwheat Zidago. It's hard to follow that and not look dull!

KonAaron Snake 10-29-15 08:12 PM


Originally Posted by seedsbelize (Post 18280979)
Clapton hasn't released a decent album since said D and the Dominoes, but his live stuff on Youtube is very good.

Wrong EC ;)

clubman 10-29-15 08:38 PM


Originally Posted by seypat (Post 18281045)
Out of all the famous musicians I have seen live, Clapton was the only one that was disappointing. Of course, his opening band was Buckwheat Zidago. It's hard to follow that and not look dull!

Saw him around 79 in Buffalo in that concrete bowl of a stadium...horrible. I think he was as high as the other 50,000 tailgaters. I'd much rather watch him on 16 mm in Farewell Cream at Alberts Hall. Still boring but Ginger Baker makes up for it, (high on heroin). Great band in a somewhat trashy film.

Great thread...so many memories. Magazine? Buzzcocks? Moody Blues? Waiting for Columbus? Thrilling retro variety. How about National Health? Bill Frizzell? For gods sake Joy Division.

edit PIL. The Specials, Sousie and the Banshees, Husker Du, Desmond Decker, Al Green, Rory Gallagher, Brand X, Mahavishna, Chick Corea...what a trip the 60's,70's and 80's gave us. It was all good even when it was bad.

Frank Zappa.

USAZorro 10-29-15 09:34 PM

First year in college was culture shock for me. Nobody else seemed to appreciate Parliament, EW&F, Zapp and Roger, Lakeside, Brothers Johnson, etc. It was all Meatloaf mania, Alan Parsons Project, Pink Floyd, Rush (college was practically in Canada), and who could forget Gallagher smashing those horrible Unica-Nitor saddles with that huge sledge hammer?

mtnbke 10-29-15 11:11 PM


Originally Posted by Chombi (Post 18253889)
I'm not sure if he's really trolling or just does not communicate his feeling quite right to us.
Instead of saying "stop loving" C&V saddles he mentioned, maybe mtnbke should just ask for help with suggestions for alternatives to C&V saddles that he can try out, but not try to convince everyone (in this forum, especially) to quit "loving"/using C&V saddles......
I might not feel the same impact as others from his statement about C&V saddles cause I myself had experienced problems with certain C&V saddles in the past, so I can relate, but Heck!, I'd really go berserk if someone tries to even suggest to me to stop loving bacon today!:rolleyes::p

Bacon, hot dogs and processed meats cause cancer, WHO says

cb400bill 10-30-15 03:52 AM

Always liked the Live Aid rendition of Sultans of Swing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plsMlX-qYP8

rootboy 10-30-15 04:54 AM


Originally Posted by seypat (Post 18280856)
I haven't seen any mention of The Moody Blues yet. Tickets for their 2016 show here in Richmond go on sale tomorrow starting at 55 bucks. Maybe that's why I haven't been to a concert in a while!

Fifty five bucks!? Heck, that's cheap these days. They play here at the local outdoor venue once in a while, along with the other quasi-ressurected bands like the Beach Boys, etc. I saw them back in 1970 or so, and we even had one of their albums in the house. But it was my sister's album. Also saw Vanilla Fudge at the same place, and their warm-up band was…. Led Zep! Those were the days.

rootboy 10-30-15 04:58 AM


Originally Posted by clubman (Post 18281106)
Frank Zappa.

+1. While I would never put Frank in my best songwriter list, I would put The Mothers in my favorites list.
I saw them more than any other band in the early to mid 70's. Because they came to town a lot and we loved them.

Wileyone 10-30-15 05:10 AM

I really miss Stevie Ray Vaughan.

Wileyone 10-30-15 05:15 AM

And Roy Buchanan.

"The Best Unknown Guitarist in the World"

rootboy 10-30-15 05:38 AM


Originally Posted by Wileyone (Post 18281518)
I really miss Stevie Ray Vaughan.

Now there was a guy with soul. Eric Clapton may be considered the best guitarist ever by some…many…I'm with Aaron on this score.
Stevie Ray had more soul in his playing than EC. But then, listening to Clapton's solo on Jack Bruce's We're Going Wrong on the recent Albert Hall reunion, just to name one, there's no doubting Clapton's greatness on the instrument.
But when it comes to "soul" , I'd rather listen to Stevie Ray than Clapton…. or Bob Marley rather than Aretha.

rootboy 10-30-15 05:41 AM

Traffic. Was there anyone with a more sublime voice than Steve Winwood?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mN6_PZ_nlgI

Wileyone 10-30-15 05:44 AM

Clapton tried to join the Band at one point. He along with many others were in awe of their music.

Thank God he didn't.

KonAaron Snake 10-30-15 06:33 AM


Originally Posted by rootboy (Post 18281552)
Traffic. Was there anyone with a more sublime voice than Steve Winwood?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mN6_PZ_nlgI

I really like both Winwood and Traffic. I'll take Stevie Ray vaughn well over clapton...not because of ability, because the stuff he put out was more listenable.

I know this will be shocking given my dislike of most prog rock, but jethro tull is a guilty pleasure.

RobbieTunes 10-30-15 06:35 AM


Originally Posted by eschlwc (Post 18280462)

How can you not sing along to Brother Love's Travelin' Salvation Show? Off-key at that.....at least in my case. Pack up the babies, grab the old ladies, and everyone go....

RobbieTunes 10-30-15 06:37 AM


Originally Posted by iab (Post 18280804)
I like the Social Distortion.

Don't know about the "greatest" song writers, but the single greatest line is; I wasn't born as much as I fell out

"wind up wounded and not even dead"

KonAaron Snake 10-30-15 06:41 AM

Not one mention of Buddy Holly or Bo Didley. Both were brilliant song writers. The Everly Brothers as well. As far as lyrics, Prince can be sort of silly, but he can also be brilliant. He's one of the most impressive guys around for my money and he's also one of the few where I look forward to a solo.

St33lWh33ls 10-30-15 06:52 AM


Originally Posted by rootboy (Post 18281547)
Now there was a guy with soul. Eric Clapton may be considered the best guitarist ever by some…many…I'm with Aaron on this score.
Stevie Ray had more soul in his playing than EC. But then, listening to Clapton's solo on Jack Bruce's We're Going Wrong on the recent Albert Hall reunion, just to name one, there's no doubting Clapton's greatness on the instrument.
But when it comes to "soul" , I'd rather listen to Stevie Ray than Clapton…. or Bob Marley rather than Aretha.

Well that’s one man’s opinion, and I am as big a fan of SRV as anyone; I think Clapton’s performance on “Have you ever loved a woman” is as soulful as anything SRV has done.


St33lWh33ls 10-30-15 06:56 AM


Originally Posted by Wileyone (Post 18281523)
And Roy Buchanan.

"The Best Unknown Guitarist in the World"

There are many “unknown or little known guitarist” here’s one…


St33lWh33ls 10-30-15 07:08 AM


Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake (Post 18281647)
Not one mention of Buddy Holly or Bo Didley. Both were brilliant song writers. The Everly Brothers as well. As far as lyrics, Prince can be sort of silly, but he can also be brilliant. He's one of the most impressive guys around for my money and he's also one of the few where I look forward to a solo.

I used to get the Bo and Buddy beat confused until I actually picked up a guitar and tried to play them. In my early days I thought Not Fade Away and Hey, Bo Diddley were basically the same rhythm. I love Road Runner by Bo.

Wileyone 10-30-15 07:09 AM


Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake (Post 18281628)
I really like both Winwood and Traffic. I'll take Stevie Ray vaughn well over clapton...not because of ability, because the stuff he put out was more listenable.

I know this will be shocking given my dislike of most prog rock, but jethro tull is a guilty pleasure.

It was Stevie's Tone. It was a lot more Soulfull/Bluesy than Claptons. Clapton considered himself a Blues player. He wasn't he is a R&R Guitarist and one of the best. But... as far as R&R Guitarists go he was a step behind Jimmy Page.

St33lWh33ls 10-30-15 07:18 AM


Originally Posted by seypat (Post 18280919)
I'm one of those rare people that are meh about the Beatles. Very influential, wrote some great songs, but I don't really care for either lead singer. I never got the Stones either until I thought about it long and hard. I grew up in BFE Texas listening mostly to C&W because that is what was played. Went to rodeos and dances on the weekends and have seen most of the stars on their way up. Once I thought about it, the Stones and their music would fit right into that scene. They would fit in with the Texas Blues scene, Hank Williams, Bob Wills, Willie and his boys and all of the other Texas musicians. For me that must be it. A band from England with a sound that is purely Americana. Would I be right?

If you want to know why the Stones sound like they do check out Keith Richards: Under the Influence; I assure you it’s not about Keith’s struggle with his various addictions with the exception of music…


Another good one would be Muscle Shoals…


rhm 10-30-15 07:23 AM

Yeah, well... I don't think anyone's mentioned the greatest song writer I can think of (for one random metric: wikipedia has a page devoted to each of 130 of his songs).


I don't always require great songwriting, though. Today I'm listening to "Pure Mania" by the Vibrators.

St33lWh33ls 10-30-15 07:31 AM


Originally Posted by Wileyone (Post 18281702)
It was Stevie's Tone. It was a lot more Soulfull/Bluesy than Claptons. Clapton considered himself a Blues player. He wasn't he is a R&R Guitarist and one of the best. But... as far as R&R Guitarists go he was a step behind Jimmy Page.

You can debate this all you want, like everything else on here it’s just internet expertise and I get it…it’s fun. But if you asked Page himself he would tell you Clapton was the better player period and Clapton would probably say the opposite because there is no “better”; in Yoda-speak there just is. Clapton has kept himself relevant by being a bit eclectic, forays into J.J. Cale, Bob Marley and such but he was always a student of the blues.

Ex Pres 10-30-15 07:48 AM

I guess no one else was listening to rockabilly back in the 70's? No mentions of Robert Gordon, Link Wray. We even brought Tex Rubinowitz and the Bad Boys down from DC to perform in our basement. Not great in the songwriting sense, but fun music.

And since we're on the Stones and under the influence, one of my favorite tunes from them:
Dead Flowers


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