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MeadMan2 10-20-15 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by Lascauxcaveman (Post 18255299)
Once again, by self-description on previous threads, the OP is 6'8" and weighs somewhere between 350 and 400 lbs. And doesn't actually ride very much.

So of course he knows what's best for the average rider. ;)

Is this the same person who on the tandem forum declared that steel tandem frames are worthless because they are too flexy & no one should ride one? *So my wife & I whose combined weight is under 300 lbs should get rid of our small Santana Arriva which we have ridden for 16 years? *And of course our Selle Anatomica saddles are all wrong. *Wow, I didn't know how ignorant I was, even though I have been riding road bikes since the early '70's. * **

icepick_trotsky 10-20-15 12:19 PM

Yawn.

crank_addict 10-20-15 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by MeadMan2 (Post 18256590)
Is this the same person who on the tandem forum declared that steel tandem frames are worthless because they are too flexy & no one should ride one? *So my wife & I whose combined weight is under 300 lbs should get rid of our small Santana Arriva which we have ridden for 16 years? *And of course our Selle Anatomica saddles are all wrong. *Wow, I didn't know how ignorant I was, even though I have been riding road bikes since the early '70's. * **

The irony of a previous post / thread, Mister Mtn raved of his Selle Anatomica saddle. :rolleyes:

Wulf 10-20-15 01:26 PM

I would bet he spends his working hours selling high heeled shoes to women..... or men. Just sayin.

modelmartin 10-20-15 02:16 PM

Every a$$ is different.

JohnDThompson 10-20-15 02:17 PM


Originally Posted by hbok@mac.com (Post 18255455)
The OP is apparently under the misapprehension that "we" are all male. Some of "us" can use whatever saddle we please without the slightest fear of erectile dysfunction, prostate cancer, and the like.

Well played! :thumb:

FWIW, my 1967 Brooks Professional saddle is still the most comfortable for me.

Salubrious 10-20-15 02:31 PM

I just completed an audition of a number of newer saddles, knowing that my Sella Anatomica is getting to the end of its service life. Which is not a vintage style saddle BTW, not by any means. It is leather, for what that's worth...

The most comfortable of the new ones was the Brooks Cambian or whatever, the one with the slot in the middle. Most of the Selle Italicas and the like were so much torture (although others think they are great). But as pointed out earlier, everyone's rear is different, and its just plain unreasonable that one saddle fits all.

At the end of the Selle Anatomica was still the most comfortable saddle I have, for some reason a new Brooks Pro Ti and a newer Brooks Swift and B17 are also pretty nice (nice means you can ride on them for about 40 miles without really being too aware of them, after that I have yet to encounter a saddle that I didn't notice after than many miles....).

Next is a B17 Imperial- lets see what a set of springs brings to the party...

lostarchitect 10-20-15 02:41 PM

Another fine Mtnbke post.

http://i.imgur.com/Nfwb2x5.gif

poprad 10-20-15 03:42 PM

Well, you have to hand it to him, people are responsive to his posts and threads. He certainly provides an alternative opinion on lots of topics.

nlerner 10-20-15 04:13 PM

[MENTION=306974]mtn[/MENTION]bike = numb willy

pastorbobnlnh 10-20-15 04:54 PM

Happiness is, for me at least, a leather and metal framed saddle. Nothing more--- nothing less. And not because of looks, but only because of comfort.

Sometimes they come with maps.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...pslrhv7cen.jpg

Sometimes they come in colors.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...ssionalRea.jpg

Or just in basic black.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...5SideLogo1.jpg

This thread needed pictures. :D

davester 10-20-15 04:57 PM


Originally Posted by poprad (Post 18257070)
Well, you have to hand it to him, people are responsive to his posts and threads. He certainly provides an alternative opinion on lots of topics.

Yes, it's rather sad that a train wreck draws so many spectators (myself included). BTW, nobody has yet pointed out that since the articles he cited as sources didn't even look at C&V saddles, his conclusion that they support the contention that C&V saddles are bad have absolutely zero basis.

Salubrious 10-21-15 10:50 AM

I notice also that he has not reappeared to support his claims.

Further, it appears that the article cited is more of an info ad in its own right rather than a bona-fide review.

Cougrrcj 10-21-15 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by gugie (Post 18254701)
I wonder what he said this time to rile everyone up? All I see is this.

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=483331

I also used this feature because I grew tired of mtnbke's pointless pontifications.

cyclotoine 10-21-15 02:16 PM

I'll have to read the specialized white pages. I don't find brooks to be an amazing leap forward but I do find the right brooks on the right bike, comfortable. I will note that there is a graph of blood flow (FROM ONE INDIVIDUAL) that shows Fizik Arione and the Rolls to be the worst. These are two of my favorite saddles, which proves that different body geometries favour different saddles.

gugie 10-21-15 03:05 PM


Originally Posted by cyclotoine (Post 18259783)
I'll have to read the specialized white pages. I don't find brooks to be an amazing leap forward but I do find the right brooks on the right bike, comfortable. I will note that there is a graph of blood flow (FROM ONE INDIVIDUAL) that shows Fizik Arione and the Rolls to be the worst. These are two of my favorite saddles, which proves that different body geometries favour different saddles.

I'll recommend saddles to people, but in the end, butt and saddle have to agree to get along. I don't care how many studies you show me, if it fits, it fits.

KonAaron Snake 10-21-15 03:34 PM


Originally Posted by fender1 (Post 18253768)
I road 126 miles on Saturday on my B17. I did not wear padded cycling shorts. I had and have no issues. Just ask my wife. You need to ride more and post less. Troll.

Check out his post about Olmo...where he acts likes a cognoscenti for knowing about the brand.

I haven't decided if this guy is a clever parody or really this silly. As though people here need his advice about saddles and he's leading the blind to the holy land. :rolleyes:

poprad 10-21-15 04:18 PM

1619 views since his original post with no re-emergence of the OP. It took my 2013 L'Eroica post (http://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...tml?highlight= ) years to hit 1646, and that took not only hours to write and drop pic links, but I had to do L'Eroica to get there!

The guy's a genius, he's The Donald of C&V.

Pars 10-21-15 04:59 PM

:roflmao:

Good one (The DOnald)

RobbieTunes 10-22-15 05:18 PM

Everyone has a grumpy uncle. I'm just sayin'
OP's very opinionated, and pretty acerbic.
And he writes a lot. I don't see him taking over Miss Manners any time soon.

I have no idea what he's like in person, but I'd have a beer with him, at least once.
If he'd have one with me.

ThermionicScott 10-22-15 05:32 PM


Originally Posted by RobbieTunes (Post 18263082)
Everyone has a grumpy uncle. I'm just sayin'
OP's very opinionated, and pretty acerbic.
And he writes a lot. I don't see him taking over Miss Manners any time soon.

I have no idea what he's like in person, but I'd have a beer with him, at least once.
If he'd have one with me.

Yeah, true. I think that his delivery gets in the way of his message a lot of the time.

KonAaron Snake 10-22-15 05:33 PM


Originally Posted by RobbieTunes (Post 18263082)
Everyone has a grumpy uncle. I'm just sayin'
OP's very opinionated, and pretty acerbic.
And he writes a lot. I don't see him taking over Miss Manners any time soon.

I have no idea what he's like in person, but I'd have a beer with him, at least once.
If he'd have one with me.

^^^ the king of diplomacy

I admire you Robbie.

iab 10-22-15 06:09 PM

Stop Making Sense?

Probably one of the best albums ever. Don't know why there are so many negative posts. This ain't no Mudd Club or CBGB. I ain't got no time for that now.

KonAaron Snake 10-22-15 06:12 PM


Originally Posted by iab (Post 18263188)
Stop Making Sense?

Probably one of the best albums ever. Don't know why there are so many negative posts. This ain't no Mudd Club or CBGB. I ain't got no time for that now.

As good as it is, it's not even their best live album (The Name of This Band is the Talking Heads).

Michael Angelo 10-22-15 06:23 PM

Good Article

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