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01-15-16 | 08:38 PM

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01-16-16 | 12:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by orangeology

with that size of ripples on both TT and DT, there's no way the fork is 'not damaged'. if the fork looks ok, it's either bent back or not matching one i guess?

It's possible to damage only the frame or only the fork or only the wheel. It happens.

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Originally Posted by rhm

As for unseen damage, I don't see any.

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01-16-16 | 12:53 PM

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I agree with [MENTION=152773]noglider[/MENTION], the fork may be undamaged. I'm not saying it is, or isn't. Whatever, OP wrote the story, and according to the story the fork is undamaged.

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01-16-16 | 04:08 PM

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My PX-10 is kinda like that. Fork was fine. Before I got it (for 20 bucks) someone else had it straightened. I rides straight and my LBS with a Master Mechanic informed me that 531 can handle that abuse and the frame is 95.5% as strong as it was new. If I already had a PX-10, I would have passed.

01-19-16 | 04:08 PM

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[MENTION=152773]noglider[/MENTION] [MENTION=73614]rhm[/MENTION]

thanks for the lesson. always thought the fork would get damaged first no matter what, in a collision that is hard enough to give a frame a ripple. (and somehow it's an easier thing to bend back)

01-19-16 | 05:12 PM

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is this frame toasted?

toasted: inebriated

toast: beyond repair

01-20-16 | 08:07 AM

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4-500 bucks to repair plus a quality repaint ---- so 6-700$ minimum. You can find nice framesets for that kind of tariff that dont need any work

01-20-16 | 10:24 AM

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Serotta steel forks are hard to come by, I've been looking for one that would fit a 58cm for ages, if it unbent, it is certainly worth 35 clams.

A few years ago a paid $100 for a Ciocc that had damage similar to this frame but not as severe, I guess the speed of impact was less. It was worth it as it had a SR headset and bb, when I built it up, it rode just fine, even no-hands.

Maybe the seller can throw in the headset or bb to make it worthwhile for you, it's a shame that the frame is bent, my Colorado II is a great bike.

01-20-16 | 10:37 AM

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I decided against it, for anyone playing along at home. One of those times you're happy to be outbid.

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01-20-16 | 10:43 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rhm

1. It's not a deathtrap. The visible damage is not dangerous. As for unseen damage, I don't see any.

2. I'm not sure the damage is severe enough that it can be repaired. The only reason to straighten it would be to correct radically altered geometry; minor bends are hard to straighten.

3. No, I wouldn't ride it. I have enough bikes that bent ones don't interest me. I ride rusty bikes, bikes with bad paint, and so on. But not bent ones.

^^^^^^ This. Too many others out there to ride a bent one like that.

01-20-16 | 12:34 PM

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Looks like you've made your decision - probably a good one.

What I like to remember is that it takes just as much time and effort to build up a bike on a crappy frame than a good one, and in the end you still have a bike with a crappy frame. The extra $$ to start with a better frame are easily absorbed into the total project (labor is the same), but in the end you have a much nicer bike.