The logic to your collection?
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The logic to your collection?
I know there was a thread about this a while back, but no matter the search terms I put in, I can't locate it. But inspired by the recent "Decade" project thread, I got to thinking about the logic to collections out there. So many bikes to explore out there, I suspect having "confines" to what you buy, keep, etc... is a good thing.
So, I am wondering two things:
1. Do you have a "logic" to you collection and if so, what? By type (i.e., touring bikes); by country (italian); brand (raleigh); etc...?
2. In thinking about my own collection, I just realized I am sort of on track for an collection built around bikes from many of the main producing counties that are from each of the "main" steel tubing manufacturers (not each tube type obviously). And if I go with this as a logic, what am I missing?
I have:
Reynolds 531--Peugeot
Tange 2--Centurion
Ishiwata 22-- Batavus
Columbus SL--Guerciotti
I also have a USA made raleigh with their own labeled tubing, so maybe that would count too! But basically, I've got french, japanese, dutch, italian bike with 4 of the big tubings.
Not that I'll necessarily do it, but I am guessing if I kept this as a theme I'd need to add True Temper and Vitus (steel) and American, maybe swiss, german makers? Oh yeah, and how can I forget a british maker?!
Other lower profile interesting tubing makers to think about?
Thanks for thoughts on both questions!
So, I am wondering two things:
1. Do you have a "logic" to you collection and if so, what? By type (i.e., touring bikes); by country (italian); brand (raleigh); etc...?
2. In thinking about my own collection, I just realized I am sort of on track for an collection built around bikes from many of the main producing counties that are from each of the "main" steel tubing manufacturers (not each tube type obviously). And if I go with this as a logic, what am I missing?
I have:
Reynolds 531--Peugeot
Tange 2--Centurion
Ishiwata 22-- Batavus
Columbus SL--Guerciotti
I also have a USA made raleigh with their own labeled tubing, so maybe that would count too! But basically, I've got french, japanese, dutch, italian bike with 4 of the big tubings.
Not that I'll necessarily do it, but I am guessing if I kept this as a theme I'd need to add True Temper and Vitus (steel) and American, maybe swiss, german makers? Oh yeah, and how can I forget a british maker?!
Other lower profile interesting tubing makers to think about?
Thanks for thoughts on both questions!
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Bikes: Cannondale, Trek, Raleigh, Santana
mnmkpedals, I suppose that my "logic" is brand related. At this time all of my roadies, including the touring bikes, are Cannondales. Cannondale was the first frame I couldn't flex the big chain ring into the FD and their general geometry, at least through the CAAD3, fit me very well. One would think that I would also prefer a Cannondale mountain bike, but Treks have always been better fitting.
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From: Poznań, Poland
Bikes: Moser Leader NP, Koga Miyata WT 86'
I have no collection so no logic
but seriously I'm thinking about getting only Japanese bikes but only one in each type (touring, road...). I already have Koga Miyata touring bike and Kuwahara CX. Don't know if giving up Italian bikes is a good idea tho.
[MENTION=348979]mnmkpedals[/MENTION]
Dedacciai and Miyata have their own steel tubesets. My track bike is build with deda.
but seriously I'm thinking about getting only Japanese bikes but only one in each type (touring, road...). I already have Koga Miyata touring bike and Kuwahara CX. Don't know if giving up Italian bikes is a good idea tho. [MENTION=348979]mnmkpedals[/MENTION]
Dedacciai and Miyata have their own steel tubesets. My track bike is build with deda.
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There is not logic to my hoard. Merely desire.
Columbus (various tubings): Bianchi, Merkcx, Trek, Daccordi, Torpado, Atala (rumored).
Reynolds: Ironhorse
Tange: Ironman, Skykomish MTB
Ishawata: RB-1
Columbus (various tubings): Bianchi, Merkcx, Trek, Daccordi, Torpado, Atala (rumored).
Reynolds: Ironhorse
Tange: Ironman, Skykomish MTB
Ishawata: RB-1
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From: Minas Ithil
My logic is now cost related. I've had Serotta's, Rossin EL/OS, Rossin SL, Koga-Miyata Full Pro, ect. Some high end bikes, I've spend some serious money in the past. I've also bough a couple that needed major restoration which I won't do again. My two favorite rides cost me a total of $250 and were in almost NOS condition. I now look for hardly ridden mid range bikes in mint condition that I can buy for super cheap and don't have to pour money and time into and can ride into the ground. Which ends up being Japanese bikes. Exage and Light Action works just as well as Super record and Dura Ace. I've had them all. Tange 2 is as nice of a ride as SLX and I'm just as fast on my 24 pound bike as my 16 pound modern bike. I was riding my mint condition Centurion LeMans this morning and smiling knowing I bought it for a hundred bucks and could ride it across the country if I wanted to. So I may not have 200 forum members drooling over them when I post a picture, so what. I didn't blow a thousand bucks and have to order parts online from 10 different websites, either.
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From: D'uh... I am a Cutter
Bikes: '17 Access Old Turnpike Gravel bike, '14 Trek 1.1, '13 Cannondale CAAD 10, '98 CAD 2, R300
I've realized that the bikes I've accumulated they've been the bikes I missed owning in the years I didn't own a bicycle. I own and ride modern bikes. But I've been able to buy ride and enjoy most of the bikes I might had bought over the years. I had owned a Schwinn Varsity in 1964.... but then bought a car, joined the Army.... and so forth.
I also keep at least one or two steel bikes with downtube shifters. C&V feels real to me. But many bikes have come and gone since a began this hobby.
I also keep at least one or two steel bikes with downtube shifters. C&V feels real to me. But many bikes have come and gone since a began this hobby.
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My road bikes are all Japanese. Other than my late '74-built Fuji that I bought new, I prefer the mid 80s, which I consider to be the height of craftsmanship, quality and value. Lugged steel is a must. Butted CrMo, double/triple and even quad butting.
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'75 Fuji S-10S bought new, 52k+ miles and still going!
'84 Univega Gran Tourismo
'84 Univega Viva Sport
'86 Miyata 710
'90 Schwinn Woodlands
Unknown brand MTB of questionable lineage aka 'Mutt Trail Bike'
Plus or minus a few others from time-to-time
'75 Fuji S-10S bought new, 52k+ miles and still going!
'84 Univega Gran Tourismo
'84 Univega Viva Sport
'86 Miyata 710
'90 Schwinn Woodlands
Unknown brand MTB of questionable lineage aka 'Mutt Trail Bike'
Plus or minus a few others from time-to-time
#11
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From: South Holland, NL
Bikes: Yes, please.
Anything interesting in my size. Or mrs non-fixie's size. If it's really interesting: any size. Or cheap. Or has nice parts. Or has an interesting brand. Or a really obscure one.
I'm pretty sure I'm forgetting some things.
I'm pretty sure I'm forgetting some things.
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From: Port Angeles, WA
Bikes: A green one, "Ragleigh," or something.
Mine is dictated by what opportunities are presented at an attractive price.
I'm getting better at saying 'no' to stuff I don't need anymore, but I notice that at any given time a big chunk of my storeroom is filled not with my collection but rather flip stuff I haven't flipped yet. Better get to makin' hay...
I'm getting better at saying 'no' to stuff I don't need anymore, but I notice that at any given time a big chunk of my storeroom is filled not with my collection but rather flip stuff I haven't flipped yet. Better get to makin' hay...
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● 1971 Grandis SL ● 1972 Lambert Grand Prix frankenbike ● 1972 Raleigh Super Course fixie ● 1973 Nishiki Semi-Pro ● 1979 Motobecane Grand Jubile ●1980 Apollo "Legnano" ● 1984 Peugeot Vagabond ● 1985 Shogun Prairie Breaker ● 1986 Merckx Super Corsa ● 1987 Schwinn Tempo ● 1988 Schwinn Voyageur ● 1989 Bottechia Team ADR replica ● 1990 Cannondale ST600 ● 1993 Technium RT600 ● 1996 Kona Lava Dome ●
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From: Poznań, Poland
Bikes: Moser Leader NP, Koga Miyata WT 86'
I just realized collecting Japanese bikes not only makes you not own Italian bikes but it also makes you not own campagnolo equipped bike. And that's just...
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Each one speaks to my soul.
They don't all speak the same language or at the same volume, but each one converses with my inner happy place.
They don't all speak the same language or at the same volume, but each one converses with my inner happy place.
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Having a necessity, and then simply whatever I find to fit that necessity.
First need was a road bike. Enter the Peugeot after a few months of looking and testing. Next, I found I couldn't put anything but narrow slicks on the Peugeot, I wanted something other than the MTB to ride the dirt rail trails, and the Le Tour came home as a surprise find at the thrift shop. After the girlfriend had a city cruiser and we went on some slow leisurely rides, I realized my bikes weren't any good at a strolling pace, so the Collegiate was found at a bargain price at another thrift shop one day (not even looking at that point). Then, I decided to go on a bike tour, wanted a touring bike as the Peugeot didn't have eyelets and the Schwinn is too heavy to box up, and the Miyata 610 popped up on CL.
I didn't set out to buy any particular model, they were just what I happened across while fulfilling a need.
First need was a road bike. Enter the Peugeot after a few months of looking and testing. Next, I found I couldn't put anything but narrow slicks on the Peugeot, I wanted something other than the MTB to ride the dirt rail trails, and the Le Tour came home as a surprise find at the thrift shop. After the girlfriend had a city cruiser and we went on some slow leisurely rides, I realized my bikes weren't any good at a strolling pace, so the Collegiate was found at a bargain price at another thrift shop one day (not even looking at that point). Then, I decided to go on a bike tour, wanted a touring bike as the Peugeot didn't have eyelets and the Schwinn is too heavy to box up, and the Miyata 610 popped up on CL.
I didn't set out to buy any particular model, they were just what I happened across while fulfilling a need.
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From: Northern San Diego
Bikes: mid 1980s De Rosa SL, 1985 Tommasini Super Prestige all Campy SR, 1992 Paramount PDG Series 7, 1997 Lemond Zurich, 1998 Trek Y-foil, 2006 Schwinn Super Sport GS, 2006 Specialized Hardrock Sport
I do, as I generally have different bikes tailored to different purposes, although the last couple of great bargain opportunities I saw have created some redundancy in my collection - I may actually have some rationale to sell a couple of bikes as a result. But unfortunately, the bike that is now my most redundant - my Trek 510 - is also one I am emotionally attached to, because it's the bike I rode across the U.S. on back when I was in college during the summer of 1980. I just put it in top notch riding condition to sell it, with new cables and bar tape and freshly matched tires, but I can't bring myself to actually list the thing.
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I've recently started to give some thought to what I actually want to hang on to for the long term. I've got a few more projects than I can keep up with at the moment. Actually, I'll probably be posting a few for sale here pretty soon.
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From: Thunder Bay, Ontario, Canada - burrrrr!
Bikes: 1958 Rabeneick 120D, 1968 Legnano Gran Premio, 196? Torpado Professional, 2000 Marinoni Piuma
I used to try to use some form of logic to control my collection. What I learned was doing so was a waste of my time. Why? Because you never know what will show up next. At one time, I was interested in vintage Canadian bicycles. Then an Italian one showed up and I wanted to collect Italian bikes. Then French and so on.
These days, the next bike might become the newest keeper, regardless of where it was made, what it was made for or how fancy (high end) it is. Today, I have three Italian, one Canadian, one from the USA, and one from France. A couple I ride, the rest are wall art.
These days, the next bike might become the newest keeper, regardless of where it was made, what it was made for or how fancy (high end) it is. Today, I have three Italian, one Canadian, one from the USA, and one from France. A couple I ride, the rest are wall art.
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"98% of the bikes I buy are projects".
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Italian + Campagnolo = Awesome
American + Campagnolo = Awesome
*** Oh - and they gotta fit me, too
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DD
American + Campagnolo = Awesome
*** Oh - and they gotta fit me, too
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From: Stockholm, Sweden
Bikes: 40 - accumulated over (now - more than) 40 years
In the 80ies - what I could afford.
In the 90ies - what I could find locally (pre internet).
In the 00ies - everything I saw (internet).
Now - what I find beautiful and that has a good (his)story behind it.
I guess top of the line of competition/racing frames and equipment is my thing. Mostly Italian but there are exceptions (Belgian and French).
A small part of it (and sorry for the bad pic).
In the 90ies - what I could find locally (pre internet).
In the 00ies - everything I saw (internet).
Now - what I find beautiful and that has a good (his)story behind it.
I guess top of the line of competition/racing frames and equipment is my thing. Mostly Italian but there are exceptions (Belgian and French).
A small part of it (and sorry for the bad pic).
#22
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From: Fenton, MI
Bikes: CAAD 9 , Schwinn World, Prologue, Madison , Sports Tourer ; Ironman , Opus lll , Allez , Peugeot 753, Trek 531 (2) , Assenmacher ( custom)
Really no logic, usually I will see something on here that I like, then look for one to buy/ refurb . Good , cheap fun . My modest collection of 12 is mostly paid for by doing a few flips, here and there .
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To further clarify my earlier statement - I have not ever been or ever will be a Cat-anything racer, so I don't really want or need a bike with 'twitchy' race geometry. I prefer a bit more relaxed 'sport' geometry for the better ride. I also rarely ride in a gear higher that 85-GI because I'm perfectly OK with riding at less than 20mph - I cruise at 18-19 in still air on flat terrain -- which I consider not bad for an almost 60-yr old. Besides, as a borderline 'Clyde', I'd probably exceed the weight limitations of many lighter frames or wheels. I'm a middle-income, middle aged 'old' guy whose wife does not ride and doesn't understand the whole 'bike thing', much less spending a lot of $$$ on anything bike-related. In fact, the most I have ever spent on any complete bike was the ~$200 for the Fuji when it was brand new. Anything Italian or Campy-equipped would bust my budget. Besides, C&V SunTour drivetrains shift better than C&V Campy anyway.
So I want a 'better'-grade bike -- Not top-of-the-line - because that's who I am. I drive no-nonsense cars, have a no-nonsense truck, live in a modest house... Joe Boring Workingman.
I worked in a bike shop back in the mid-'70s. Trying to figure our the 'logic' for component threading was downright maddening. French threading, Italian threading, English threading... So I simplified things and stuck to the Japanese (English threading) bikes, and left the 'exotics' to others. That meant clincher tires, and not anything equipped with tubulars. Friction shifting.
The above are my justifications for 'mid-grade' Japanese bikes.
So I want a 'better'-grade bike -- Not top-of-the-line - because that's who I am. I drive no-nonsense cars, have a no-nonsense truck, live in a modest house... Joe Boring Workingman.
I worked in a bike shop back in the mid-'70s. Trying to figure our the 'logic' for component threading was downright maddening. French threading, Italian threading, English threading... So I simplified things and stuck to the Japanese (English threading) bikes, and left the 'exotics' to others. That meant clincher tires, and not anything equipped with tubulars. Friction shifting.
The above are my justifications for 'mid-grade' Japanese bikes.
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'75 Fuji S-10S bought new, 52k+ miles and still going!
'84 Univega Gran Tourismo
'84 Univega Viva Sport
'86 Miyata 710
'90 Schwinn Woodlands
Unknown brand MTB of questionable lineage aka 'Mutt Trail Bike'
Plus or minus a few others from time-to-time
'75 Fuji S-10S bought new, 52k+ miles and still going!
'84 Univega Gran Tourismo
'84 Univega Viva Sport
'86 Miyata 710
'90 Schwinn Woodlands
Unknown brand MTB of questionable lineage aka 'Mutt Trail Bike'
Plus or minus a few others from time-to-time
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