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Old 05-21-16 | 09:11 AM
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Looking for a Schmiddt E6 PRIMARY light...

Came across this: Dual Headlights on Fork

Peter White has the secondary lights in stock, but the primaries are out, and both are no longer made.

I'll cross post this in the Electronics, Lighting, and Gadgets forum.
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Sold mine off 2 months ago, tried looking for them in German sellers? Peter Has his own Inventory, and since everyone prefers LED

1 eDelux2 = more light than the E6 primary and secondary, combined .. so PW stopped importing them..
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Sold mine off 2 months ago, tried looking for them in German sellers? Peter Has his own Inventory, and since everyone prefers LED

1 eDelux2 = more light than the E6 primary and secondary, combined .. so PW stopped importing them..
I'm looking at the Luxos IQ2 U .... it's supposidly the best Dynamo front light[h=1][/h]
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Old 05-21-16 | 10:24 AM
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'Supposedly' and that opinion : "best".

Spend ... its your duty ..

Not being a i-Phone addict I dont need the USB charge function..
Luxos U went thru a couple versions they had problems initially ..



They may have even ceased making them in Germany, e6 is Old tech, a Halogen Bulb light ..
with a rectifier chip in the base ti usde thr AC coming off current alternator Dynohubs.

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Old 05-21-16 | 11:33 AM
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Just to keep this thread on track, I know and understand that the e6 is old, halogen, obsolete, not nearly as great, yada, yada, yada.

This is simply an aesthetic issue. The look of the big ol' lamps, dual up front is what we're after. You can't use just the secondary, I need to find a primary to make this work. The secondary lamps are available.
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I'm familiar with the idea of using two bulbs in series in order to get more light at higher speeds. I'm not familiar with the difference between the primary and secondary version of the E6, but "assume" that it's just a difference in wiring?? Or did the secondary come with the switch to let you short it out at lower speeds?

My uneducated guess is that you could run two secondary E6 lights if you were willing to do a little work on the wire harness to get everything connected. Not as clean of a solution as digging up a primary version, but could be functional.

And another tangential question... isn't the world full of used E6's sitting in parts boxes, after being replaced by a LED headlight? Seems like they should be available if you can post a "WTB" ad in the right place.

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I'm familiar with the idea of using two bulbs in series in order to get more light at higher speeds. I'm not familiar with the difference between the primary and secondary version of the E6, but "assume" that it's just a difference in wiring?? Or did the secondary come with the switch to let you short it out at lower speeds?

My uneducated guess is that you could run two secondary E6 lights if you were willing to do a little work on the wire harness to get everything connected. Not as clean of a solution as digging up a primary version, but could be functional.

And another tangential question... isn't the world full of used E6's sitting in parts boxes, after being replaced by a LED headlight? Seems like they should be available if you can post a "WTB" ad in the right place.

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Yep, posted in several places. this is one of them.
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I'm familiar with the idea of using two bulbs in series in order to get more light at higher speeds. I'm not familiar with the difference between the primary and secondary version of the E6, but "assume" that it's just a difference in wiring?? Or did the secondary come with the switch to let you short it out at lower speeds?

My uneducated guess is that you could run two secondary E6 lights if you were willing to do a little work on the wire harness to get everything connected. Not as clean of a solution as digging up a primary version, but could be functional.

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Sorry, Steve, forgot to answer your question. In actuality, the new LED "superlights" are supposedly better than two E6's, but this client really likes the look of the two Schmidt's side by side. On this particular bike, I'd have to agree. As far as how they work, not really sure, but I'm just going by Peter White's postings.

BTW, I believe we're going for something like this:

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gugie, do you have more pictures of that bike?
How about 49 of 'em?

Careful who you open them around, this is pure C&V bicycle porn.

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Sorry, Steve, forgot to answer your question. In actuality, the new LED "superlights" are supposedly better than two E6's, but this client really likes the look of the two Schmidt's side by side. On this particular bike, I'd have to agree. As far as how they work, not really sure, but I'm just going by Peter White's postings.

BTW, I believe we're going for something like this:

<...delicious bike pic deleted...>
thanks for the reply and the bike pic!
I understand the appeal of the symmetry of running two lights, and perhaps just the exotic aspect of it.
The Schmidt products have been very well engineered and built, so they are bits of bike jewelry all by themselves (and I've got two Schmidt hub dynamos). If this keeps two of these headlights in use, then I'm all for it. In fact, I've got some of the 3 watt flanged bulbs that need a new home, in case you are interested and can use them.

As an electrical engineer that rides bikes and has designed my own lights for quite a while, I love the new technologies but still love the aesthetics of some of the old lights. A few of the old lights lend themselves to being retrofitted with new technology, but for the headlights, it ends up being rather difficult to do well. So.. I'm glad to see these E6's continue to be used, but I'm also wondering if there is a way to sneak some new technology into the housing. The usual answer is "yes, but it costs more than it's worth". I'm intrigued by the idea, but it's Off Topic for this forum, and probably not something that anyone would want to pursue.

Thanks for sharing the info on the project and the bike photos!


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thanks for the reply and the bike pic!
I understand the appeal of the symmetry of running two lights, and perhaps just the exotic aspect of it.
The Schmidt products have been very well engineered and built, so they are bits of bike jewelry all by themselves (and I've got two Schmidt hub dynamos). If this keeps two of these headlights in use, then I'm all for it. In fact, I've got some of the 3 watt flanged bulbs that need a new home, in case you are interested and can use them.

As an electrical engineer that rides bikes and has designed my own lights for quite a while, I love the new technologies but still love the aesthetics of some of the old lights. A few of the old lights lend themselves to being retrofitted with new technology, but for the headlights, it ends up being rather difficult to do well. So.. I'm glad to see these E6's continue to be used, but I'm also wondering if there is a way to sneak some new technology into the housing. The usual answer is "yes, but it costs more than it's worth". I'm intrigued by the idea, but it's Off Topic for this forum, and probably not something that anyone would want to pursue.

Thanks for sharing the info on the project and the bike photos!


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As a mechanical engineer that was told by a professor to leave the electrical stuff for the sparkies, I might pick your brain at some point or another. I might take you up on that bulb offer, thre are two separate guys I'm picking up e6's from locally in Portland, one has spare bulbs, but you can never have enough spares, right?
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Peter does stock the bulbs..

BTW I cannot imagine reaching all the way down there to turn on the secondary.

at the Added speed you need to be going to power it, or need that extra light.


I Assume your customer understands he Has to buy an AC current producing Hub.. (or new bottle Generator)

they will not be 'period correct' .. If that is the intended Bike.

Union Headlights with the halogen flange base are closer to the era (70's long ago, but not quite the 50's )

They are un switched as the company made Bottle generators .

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Peter does stock the bulbs..

BTW I cannot imagine reaching all the way down there to turn on the secondary.

at the Added speed you need to be going to power it, or need that extra light.


I Assume your customer understands he Has to buy an AC current producing Hub.. (or new bottle Generator)

they will not be 'period correct' .. If that is the intended Bike.

Union Headlights with the halogen flange base are closer to the era (70's long ago, but not quite the 50's )

They are un switched as the company made Bottle generators .
Look, we're waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay off making this "period correct". I imagine the lights will both be on or both be off. My customer is well known here on the forum, and has an ongoing post about it. He's building it to please himself, not any perceived notion of what it's "supposed to" be. It'll be one of the coolest Frankenbikes you'll ever see, IMO.
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