Weighing In
12-06-16 | 08:20 PM
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Weighing In
I've taken to weighing my frames and forks before I build them these days. Just because I guess.
From the department of useless facts: My current build in progress is a 1989 Schwinn Circuit with Columbus SL/SP tubing with the OE Tange fork. I was surprised to see this combo weighs 8 tenths (0.8) of a pound more than my Raleigh USA frameset with Reynolds 531c. Same scale was used to measure. In fairness, the Schwinn is bigger with a 59cm seat tube vs. the Raleigh with a 56cm. Still, it's a little disappointing to know this Schwinn "lightweight" with Columbus SL tubing is nearly a pound heavier before I hang the first part.
The frames:
Raleigh frame: 4.27lbs + fork 1.45lbs = 5.72lbs
Schwinn Circuit frame: 4.75lbs + fork 1.8lbs = 6.55lbs
From the department of useless facts: My current build in progress is a 1989 Schwinn Circuit with Columbus SL/SP tubing with the OE Tange fork. I was surprised to see this combo weighs 8 tenths (0.8) of a pound more than my Raleigh USA frameset with Reynolds 531c. Same scale was used to measure. In fairness, the Schwinn is bigger with a 59cm seat tube vs. the Raleigh with a 56cm. Still, it's a little disappointing to know this Schwinn "lightweight" with Columbus SL tubing is nearly a pound heavier before I hang the first part.
The frames:
Raleigh frame: 4.27lbs + fork 1.45lbs = 5.72lbs
Schwinn Circuit frame: 4.75lbs + fork 1.8lbs = 6.55lbs
12-06-16 | 08:43 PM
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What year is the Raleigh
I've taken to weighing my frames and forks before I build them these days. Just because I guess.
From the department of useless facts: My current build in progress is a 1989 Schwinn Circuit with Columbus SL/SP tubing with the OE Tange fork. I was surprised to see this combo weighs 8 tenths (0.8) of a pound more than my Raleigh USA frameset with Reynolds 531c. Same scale was used to measure. In fairness, the Schwinn is bigger with a 59cm seat tube vs. the Raleigh with a 56cm. Still, it's a little disappointing to know this Schwinn "lightweight" with Columbus SL tubing is nearly a pound heavier before I hang the first part.
The frames:
Raleigh frame: 4.27lbs + fork 1.45lbs = 5.72lbs
Schwinn Circuit frame: 4.75lbs + fork 1.8lbs = 6.55lbs
From the department of useless facts: My current build in progress is a 1989 Schwinn Circuit with Columbus SL/SP tubing with the OE Tange fork. I was surprised to see this combo weighs 8 tenths (0.8) of a pound more than my Raleigh USA frameset with Reynolds 531c. Same scale was used to measure. In fairness, the Schwinn is bigger with a 59cm seat tube vs. the Raleigh with a 56cm. Still, it's a little disappointing to know this Schwinn "lightweight" with Columbus SL tubing is nearly a pound heavier before I hang the first part.
The frames:
Raleigh frame: 4.27lbs + fork 1.45lbs = 5.72lbs
Schwinn Circuit frame: 4.75lbs + fork 1.8lbs = 6.55lbs
12-06-16 | 08:48 PM
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Bikes: 2011 Handsome/ Twin Six Speedy Devil, 2006 Soma Groove, 1991 Haro Impulse Comp, 1987 KHS Montana Pro, 1986 Ross Mount Hood, 1986 Mongoose ATB, 1985 Shogun Prairie Breaker I, 1973 World Voyageur, 1941 Schwinn DX "Klunker"
1995 Fuji Discovery. Frame with headset weighs 6.52 lbs (no fork). Complete build weighs a crap ton.
12-06-16 | 10:23 PM
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I've taken to weighing my frames and forks before I build them these days. Just because I guess.
From the department of useless facts: My current build in progress is a 1989 Schwinn Circuit with Columbus SL/SP tubing with the OE Tange fork. I was surprised to see this combo weighs 8 tenths (0.8) of a pound more than my Raleigh USA frameset with Reynolds 531c. Same scale was used to measure. In fairness, the Schwinn is bigger with a 59cm seat tube vs. the Raleigh with a 56cm. Still, it's a little disappointing to know this Schwinn "lightweight" with Columbus SL tubing is nearly a pound heavier before I hang the first part.
The frames:
Raleigh frame: 4.27lbs + fork 1.45lbs = 5.72lbs
Schwinn Circuit frame: 4.75lbs + fork 1.8lbs = 6.55lbs
From the department of useless facts: My current build in progress is a 1989 Schwinn Circuit with Columbus SL/SP tubing with the OE Tange fork. I was surprised to see this combo weighs 8 tenths (0.8) of a pound more than my Raleigh USA frameset with Reynolds 531c. Same scale was used to measure. In fairness, the Schwinn is bigger with a 59cm seat tube vs. the Raleigh with a 56cm. Still, it's a little disappointing to know this Schwinn "lightweight" with Columbus SL tubing is nearly a pound heavier before I hang the first part.
The frames:
Raleigh frame: 4.27lbs + fork 1.45lbs = 5.72lbs
Schwinn Circuit frame: 4.75lbs + fork 1.8lbs = 6.55lbs
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12-06-16 | 10:39 PM
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Bikes: 72 Cilo Pacer, 72 Gitane GT, 72 Peugeot PX10, 73 Speedwell Ti,l, 75 Peugeot PR-10L, 80 Colnago Super, 81 Zinn, 85 ALAN Cross, 85 De Rosa Pro, 86 Look 753, 86 Look KG86, 89 Parkpre Team, 90 Parkpre Team MTB, 90 Merlin
'73 Speedwell Ti
Frame: 1.30 kg (2.87 lbs.)
Fork (with crown race): .52 kg (1.146 lbs)
Frame & fork: 1.82 kg (4.01 lbs)
Parkpre Team Road (Tange Prestige)
Frame: 1.94 kg (4.27 lbs.)
Fork: .57 kg (1.25 lbs.)
Frame & fork: 2.51 kg (5.52 lbs)
I'm curious to know what my Look 753 and Merlin Ti weigh. I should have put them on the scale before building them, but now I'm not going to strip them to find out.
Frame: 1.30 kg (2.87 lbs.)
Fork (with crown race): .52 kg (1.146 lbs)
Frame & fork: 1.82 kg (4.01 lbs)
Parkpre Team Road (Tange Prestige)
Frame: 1.94 kg (4.27 lbs.)
Fork: .57 kg (1.25 lbs.)
Frame & fork: 2.51 kg (5.52 lbs)
I'm curious to know what my Look 753 and Merlin Ti weigh. I should have put them on the scale before building them, but now I'm not going to strip them to find out.
Last edited by gaucho777; 12-07-16 at 11:49 PM.
12-06-16 | 11:26 PM
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Me: 205
Various frames: a lot less
Various frames: a lot less
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12-06-16 | 11:30 PM
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12-06-16 | 11:46 PM
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Bikes: It's complicated.
12-07-16 | 06:07 AM
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Bikes: 1940s Fothergill, 1959 Allegro Special, 1963? Claud Butler Olympic Sprint, Lambert 'Clubman', 1974 Fuji "the Ace", 1976 Holdsworth 650b conversion rando bike, 1983 Trek 720 tourer, 1984 Counterpoint Opus II, 1993 Basso Gap, 2010 Downtube 8h, and...
I've been trying to record the weight of unbuilt frames and forks as well... just because I'm curious.
make (c-t)............frame.....fork
Fothergill (61).........4.33.....1.44
Holdsworth (61)......4.37......1.74
Basso Gap (60).......4.63......1.81
Squarebuilt (61)......4.72......2.51
Allegro (62)............4.88......1.81
Fuji Finest (58).......5.25......1.88
make (c-t)............frame.....fork
Fothergill (61).........4.33.....1.44
Holdsworth (61)......4.37......1.74
Basso Gap (60).......4.63......1.81
Squarebuilt (61)......4.72......2.51
Allegro (62)............4.88......1.81
Fuji Finest (58).......5.25......1.88
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12-07-16 | 07:12 AM
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Bikes: 1959 Capo Modell Campagnolo; 1960 Capo Sieger (2); 1962 Carlton Franco Suisse; 1970 Peugeot UO-8; 1982 Bianchi Campione d'Italia; 1988 Schwinn Project KOM-10;
Bottom line -- C&V is not for weight weenies. 
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Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
"Far and away the best prize that life offers is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." --Theodore Roosevelt
Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
12-07-16 | 01:56 PM
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Bikes: Schwinn Voyageur SP | Sekine SHS-271 | Wabi Special
Credit to the OP on the inverted water bottle cages to match the Raleigh frame colour. And credit to the 1980's for 2-tone paint jobs.
12-07-16 | 02:47 PM
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Bikes: ‘87 Marinoni SLX Sports Tourer, ‘79 Miyata 912 by Gugificazione
My 1987 Marinoni SLX Sports Tourer (62cm ctc ST - a big frame), full chrome under the paint:
Frame, fork, CK headset: 3.23 kg/7.1 lb (haven't had the fork out to weigh separately)
Complete bike as shown: 11.01 kg/24.2 lb
Frame, fork, CK headset: 3.23 kg/7.1 lb (haven't had the fork out to weigh separately)
Complete bike as shown: 11.01 kg/24.2 lb
12-08-16 | 10:39 AM
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Bikes: 1997 Cannondale, 1976 Bridgestone, 1998 SoftRide, 1989 Klein, 1989 Black Lightning #0033
My 1976 Bridgestone 'Super light' in century trim goes down the road just under 30 lbs.
That's a lot of aluminum.
My '97 Cannondale, with shocks, rack, fenders, and a trailer hitch has got it by 7#
That's a lot of aluminum.
My '97 Cannondale, with shocks, rack, fenders, and a trailer hitch has got it by 7#
Last edited by Ironfish653; 12-08-16 at 11:58 AM.
12-08-16 | 04:35 PM
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I will be weighing the recently acquired Lotus Legend Compe shortly. My weighing method is frame/fork/adjusting screws/headset/BB (spindle included). I weigh them at the post office close to my business.
Last edited by seypat; 12-09-16 at 08:59 AM.
12-08-16 | 04:57 PM
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Bikes: 78 Masi Criterium, 68 PX10, 2016 Mercian King of Mercia, Rivendell Clem Smith Jr
Low weight isn't necessarily a good thing. I prefer a frame that's a bit heavier and stiffer. To me that feels lighter. I had a 531SL bike a long time ago that was in the 18 1/2 lb range when built. It rode like a wet noodle up hills, at least for me. It got sold to a lightweight sit and spin type dude, who loved it.
I usually weigh stuff and then forget. My 78 Masi with 36h race wheels was just about 20# even built up (with pedals). 2016 Mercian KOM touring frame is 4.9 lb. I forget what the fork was. Material is 725OS in whatever gauge they felt was appropriate for a 64cm loaded touring bike. Feels lighter than the Masi going up hills, which is a very very good bike (obviously).
I usually weigh stuff and then forget. My 78 Masi with 36h race wheels was just about 20# even built up (with pedals). 2016 Mercian KOM touring frame is 4.9 lb. I forget what the fork was. Material is 725OS in whatever gauge they felt was appropriate for a 64cm loaded touring bike. Feels lighter than the Masi going up hills, which is a very very good bike (obviously).
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12-08-16 | 05:13 PM
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Low weight isn't necessarily a good thing. I prefer a frame that's a bit heavier and stiffer. To me that feels lighter. I had a 531SL bike a long time ago that was in the 18 1/2 lb range when built. It rode like a wet noodle up hills, at least for me. It got sold to a lightweight sit and spin type dude, who loved it.
I usually weigh stuff and then forget. My 78 Masi with 36h race wheels was just about 20# even built up (with pedals). 2016 Mercian KOM touring frame is 4.9 lb. I forget what the fork was. Material is 725OS in whatever gauge they felt was appropriate for a 64cm loaded touring bike. Feels lighter than the Masi going up hills, which is a very very good bike (obviously).
I usually weigh stuff and then forget. My 78 Masi with 36h race wheels was just about 20# even built up (with pedals). 2016 Mercian KOM touring frame is 4.9 lb. I forget what the fork was. Material is 725OS in whatever gauge they felt was appropriate for a 64cm loaded touring bike. Feels lighter than the Masi going up hills, which is a very very good bike (obviously).
True. My Grubb is straight guage 531, but its stiffness reminds me of high-end carbon. Bike is just a hair under 26lbs all built.
12-08-16 | 10:45 PM
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Bikes: 2011 Handsome/ Twin Six Speedy Devil, 2006 Soma Groove, 1991 Haro Impulse Comp, 1987 KHS Montana Pro, 1986 Ross Mount Hood, 1986 Mongoose ATB, 1985 Shogun Prairie Breaker I, 1973 World Voyageur, 1941 Schwinn DX "Klunker"
Working on my wife's Panasonic Tourist. Frame and fork with complete head set and a couple assorted frame bits 8.1 lbs. Bottom bracket adds an additional .77 lb.
12-09-16 | 12:38 AM
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Bikes: Bikes??? Thought this was social media?!?
Below Pinarello Cadore - f + f with NO bits = 8.0lbs
Not sure of final weight with Veloce triple.
Tubing is Oria Hi-Ten on lugged, 59/60cm frame.
Nice rider with the right wheelset. i liked nos looks.
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