Comysteel

Hello fellow peddler's, Is there a system/website for identifying which type of Holdsworth frame I have by the stamped number, it seems to match lots of mixed details from various 1970's models, but cant pin it down to one.
(Campag lugs, chromed fork and stays, pearl white paint, 531 tubing)

unworthy1

Look at this thread, given that Kilgariff's data is no longer online nor updated, I believe that this is the state of the art and of the science of Holdsworth serial numbers!:
https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...e-numbers.html

and BTW there are no "Campag lugs"

and furthermore: show us some pics of this frame!!!

jetboy 

yes- post the pics and a serial # and there is a good chance the good people of the forum will know what you have. I am a luddite but there are some who are as expert as you are going to find.

Comysteel

Thanks for the replies, yes, my mistake, should have read campag fork ends/dropouts and bottom bracket cable guides.
Frame/fork number- 013545
I will attach some photos as soon as I figure the process out!

Comysteel

Many thanks!

merziac

You are in the right place, you will need to play along for max benefit with lots of pics, clear, straight on, full view, closeup of lugs, dropouts, seatstay, BB, headbadge, fork crown, seatpost size, etc., etc.

Comysteel

Thanks, I have all these photos, but attaching them to a post
does seem to be a bit of a task- a URL link for all? I will figure it out.

Comysteel

I have 20 jpeg photos in a folder on my laptop and have failed to figure out any way of publishing them on this forum!!

MiloFrance

Advanced message gives you a manage attachments option... Any chance you could get them on the page before I go to bed? ;D

Wildwood 

Search this FORUM, seems to have been several Holdsworth threads lately.
one even got locked.

edit: here is a serial from Holdsworth Special which i believe is from 1982.

Wildwood 

to attach photos from your computer

GO Advanced
Manage attachments
Browse (then attach computer image)
Upload
then 'submit reply'

max size should be under 1 MB.

jetboy 

@dwscrimshaw@bti compiled this list: looks like you are in 1979-

Comysteel

Thanks for your info and guidance, attached are a few pics of the bike as found and partly stripped- Bike was found in a refuse dump, without wheels and pedals, quite rusty, but otherwise complete. Parts removed were the 3ttt suede saddle and fluted seat post, 3ttt stem, Cinelli bars, Weinman 405 brakes, Stronglight 10 speed crank set and Suntour gears. (all of which were re-fitted after)
I will post more pics post restoration once I've edited them down to a smaller file size.

Comysteel

The frame was stripped bare and bead blasted to re start from a blank canvas ( I know some of you will hate me for doing this, but the frame is not that old to worry about vintage value and the condition was awful).
This obviously removed the chrome plating from the rear stays which I decided not to have re-chromed due to cost, however, I did get the forks stripped and re-chromed.
This process revealed the very tidy brazing job by the builder and also braze- filled holes on the fork tube where the enamel badge would have been riveted on previous models- cutbacks eh?- Drill out and find an original badge? Maybe later.

Wildwood 

Refuse to road worthy.
Hope the fit is good for you.

dwscrimshaw@bti

Yes I have included both the above frames and have this one down as 1979. Found a good few more numbers since and the updated file can be found on Google cloud, here.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...UZYSTNKZkN4TmM

Comysteel

So, frame now powder coated on the closest to the orange I could get (Ral 901 I think), forks re-chromed and all original parts re-fitted. I know the wheels and tyres are not period, but they get it on the road again!
Very pleased with the results, though a little small for me, but still lovely to ride.
Still looking to identify the model type though?

qcpmsame 

Its a nice looking Holdsworth, a bit different from what usually is shown here, but if it works for you its all good. there are several Holdsworths on here lately, search for those threads for some great examples of what has been accomplished.

Do you plan to change the wheelset to a more period correct? Just curious is all, not a critique at all. Some tan walled tires would make that pop, IMHO.

Bill

unworthy1

Looks GREAT! nice job, though yes it IS a strange build: those "Champagne" Simplex retrofriction shifters with those "Graham biscuit" Weinmann brakes...and those wheels...but the FRAME looks fine!

merziac

Anybody else realize that this excellent result was accomplished in less than 30 days!
Gotta be a record of some sort, especially with such a good outcome.

Very cool, well done.