Please help me in identifying a frame or model bicycle
 

Hi, Please help me in identifying a frame or model bicycle.

Unable to find a serial number (under paint? ...)


front and rear derailleurs: Miche (by Suntour)
Hubs:?
Rims: Nisi
Brakes: Saccon
Shifters: Suntour Accushift
Pedals: Miche
Seatpost: Miche
Seat: Selle Royal
Headset: Miche
Crankset: Miche Trofeo
Handlebar: Cycloman Sterling
Steering column: Cycloman
Dropouts (frame and fork): Gippieme

For any information I´ll be very grateful.Thanks

PS: Does anyone know, when can I find the serial number?

I would put a link, but I do not have ten posts. :-(

Reads like a mid level Italian. Check the threading. Search the bottom bracket shell for stampings-- it may be a contract bike, made by one company and then rebadged for another. And check the thread on bottom bracket drain holes for a match.

Thanks, how do I remove parts, look closely. On the bottom bracket I found only number 55
But this is probably the size of the frame...?

Yep. For some reason it looks BMZ to me (Italian contract builder). This is based on nothing but a hunch and could be entirely wrong, so there you have it.


Check this thread for possible clues: http://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...ain-holes.html


It is the most distinctive thing on the bike (short of decals, which there appear to be none). You can at least eliminate a lot of brands this way-- it's not a Viner or a Guericotti, for instance.

On the downtube found the rest of the labels (maybe) "Record"

Daccordi?

I thought that too, so I took a gander at some decals and drain holes. Not a match, but...

It is sure that threading is 36x24f

The paint struck me as Moser-ish but Daccordi was the only brand that immediately came to mind with 'cord" in it. Drain holes and cable routers reminded me of Pinarello, before they introduced their eponymous shell. However, lugs are wrong. Overall impression is the same as yours, an Italian contract build, though I'd add that it appears to be lower mid-range and probably late 1980s.

Maybe help head tube with visible edge of labels?

Whatever it is, I like it.
Check the seatpost diameter -- I'll bet it is 27.2mm, also a good sign.

Who all used hearts besides De Rosa?

I like it too, for a good price € 50 :) and the 6-hour trip.

But okey, seatpost diameter 26.6 mm

And frame:

Top tube: 25.4
down tube: 28.6
seat tube: 28.6
seat stay: 14

A 26.6mm seat post is indicative a straight gauge tubeset. The Italian tubesets that used this size and immediately come to mind are Columbus Zeta and Oria TT 0.9. If the post is slightly under size, it could be Columbus Aelle or Gara. Regardless, all fit the lower, mid-range profile.

The quality and type of of tubes for me is not so important. Not looking for high end, I would just like to put the bike to its original condition, including paint, of course. Therefore, I find the brand and model. The frame is light, rigid and I love Components Miche ... anyone have any ideas for painting? Anyway, thanks for all answers and opinions.

I'd clean it up first. It doesn't look like it needs a ton of touch up. However, the eighties Italians used a lot of fugitive bright colors-- ie, the paint would fade over time. If you can figure out the brand it is likely you can buy replacement decals.


Respray is usually a last resort and usually $$$$ to have it done right. I would set the bike up and see if you enjoy riding it before making a decision as to any potential respray. Just an opinion, feel free to discard.

In my opinion, the paint on the bicycle is home made ...

Of course I want to clean my bikes, and grease.

I found a very similar vintage 80s frame Colner

As I have discovered with my 1959 Capo, plain gauge moly steel tubing ain't necessarily a bad thing. Lots of folks really like their Raleigh Super Courses, as well. :) As long as the frame is of at least this quality, I think I care more about frame size and geometry, and Italian bikes generally seem to handle and ride very nicely.

Colner 80"s

Some better photos of the frame to identify:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/michal...57677103229314

And bottom bracket Colner 80"s

Please, what do you say about this? It seems very similar.

(Please scroll down for more pictures)

to my bike here

https://www.flickr.com/photos/michal...57677103229314

A lot of Italian paint from this time looks home-made after (minimal) wear. It would fall off the bike if you looked at it hard.