Modern Miyata
05-24-17 | 09:45 AM
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Modern Miyata
Interesting, I did not know there are still Miyata bikes, hand built in Japan using SSTB tubing
MIYATAŽ©“]ŽÔ
Hand built in Japan line up, SSTB MIYATAŽ©“]ŽÔ | MIYATA SPORT
I'd take that as a frameset
Any members living in Japan and have first hand experience with modern Miyata?
I understand brand is owned by Merida (who is supposedly owns 49% of Specialized) but curious on hand built in Japan part and Splined Triple Butted tubing modern incarnation
MIYATAŽ©“]ŽÔ
Hand built in Japan line up, SSTB MIYATAŽ©“]ŽÔ | MIYATA SPORT
I'd take that as a frameset
Any members living in Japan and have first hand experience with modern Miyata?
I understand brand is owned by Merida (who is supposedly owns 49% of Specialized) but curious on hand built in Japan part and Splined Triple Butted tubing modern incarnation
05-24-17 | 09:51 AM
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from web translate:
"New model of the Elevation series which adopted MIYATA proprietary SSTB (spiral spline, triple butted) tube adopting FORCELITE Nb tube. For the lightweight frame realizing 1.83 kg frame weight, adopting the BB 386 standard realizes high BB rigidity unique to large diameter spindle. Excellent performance as a real racer, such as good running performance with moderate whip and stiffness even with dancing. Together with the new Shimano 105, it is a finishing pursuing the texture of running. "
169K for frame and 269K for complete
"MIYATA MS of chromoly frame adopting chrome plating and MIYATA emblem original lost wax lag produced by high craftsmanship. MIYATA's unique SSTB (spiral spline, triple butted) lightweight tube and high quality running with original carbon fork are attractive. "
140 000 Japanese yen for frameset and 229 000 for complete
"New model of the Elevation series which adopted MIYATA proprietary SSTB (spiral spline, triple butted) tube adopting FORCELITE Nb tube. For the lightweight frame realizing 1.83 kg frame weight, adopting the BB 386 standard realizes high BB rigidity unique to large diameter spindle. Excellent performance as a real racer, such as good running performance with moderate whip and stiffness even with dancing. Together with the new Shimano 105, it is a finishing pursuing the texture of running. "
169K for frame and 269K for complete
"MIYATA MS of chromoly frame adopting chrome plating and MIYATA emblem original lost wax lag produced by high craftsmanship. MIYATA's unique SSTB (spiral spline, triple butted) lightweight tube and high quality running with original carbon fork are attractive. "
140 000 Japanese yen for frameset and 229 000 for complete
05-24-17 | 09:56 AM
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On SSTB (again, translator)
The threat performance that led many major races to victory, MIYATA original tube technology SSTB (SpiralSplineTriple Butted). By providing a helical rib inside the chromoly tube, not only can we increase the rigidity of 120% or more (compared with our company), we also achieved contradictory weight saving. Moreover, it brings an ideal sharpness which is not found in other materials. This specially developed original tube is adopted for all series of motorcycles.
The steel frame of MIYATA which produced the bicycle for the first time in Japan. The technology was also evaluated overseas, and in the late 70's exported high-end frames and finished cars to the real American and European sports bike. In particular, we decided to supply Kuromori Frame to the Netherlands KOGA Company, a renowned luxury car manufacturer in Europe. Even evolved MIYATA SPORT has revived the MIYATA SSTB tube which proved its strength even in Pavé (cobblestone) of Tour de France and Paris-Roubais, and all of the know-how of the many years of Kuromori road bike construction is packed in the MIYATA SPORT. Vibration absorption that produces unique stiffness as well as rigidity, a sense of whip to convert the reaction into propulsive force. When these elements are established with an exquisite balance, the motorcycle can reach the extreme top. Basically, it is overwhelmingly beautiful. that is. The universal law applicable to every event. MIYATA SPORT is a motorcycle that has made fruitless beauty, and a texture of unchanging running in the landscape of a fast moving road racer bike.
he MIYATA Original SSTB (Spiral Spline, Triple, Battet) tube has five helical (spiral) internal reinforcing ribs (splines) on the inside of a triple buddit tube made of original blended chromoly steel. The frame pipe which can be used in the actual war requested by the professional at that time is SSTB. What MIYATA produced is not just a cromolybike.
The threat performance that led many major races to victory, MIYATA original tube technology SSTB (SpiralSplineTriple Butted). By providing a helical rib inside the chromoly tube, not only can we increase the rigidity of 120% or more (compared with our company), we also achieved contradictory weight saving. Moreover, it brings an ideal sharpness which is not found in other materials. This specially developed original tube is adopted for all series of motorcycles.
The steel frame of MIYATA which produced the bicycle for the first time in Japan. The technology was also evaluated overseas, and in the late 70's exported high-end frames and finished cars to the real American and European sports bike. In particular, we decided to supply Kuromori Frame to the Netherlands KOGA Company, a renowned luxury car manufacturer in Europe. Even evolved MIYATA SPORT has revived the MIYATA SSTB tube which proved its strength even in Pavé (cobblestone) of Tour de France and Paris-Roubais, and all of the know-how of the many years of Kuromori road bike construction is packed in the MIYATA SPORT. Vibration absorption that produces unique stiffness as well as rigidity, a sense of whip to convert the reaction into propulsive force. When these elements are established with an exquisite balance, the motorcycle can reach the extreme top. Basically, it is overwhelmingly beautiful. that is. The universal law applicable to every event. MIYATA SPORT is a motorcycle that has made fruitless beauty, and a texture of unchanging running in the landscape of a fast moving road racer bike.
he MIYATA Original SSTB (Spiral Spline, Triple, Battet) tube has five helical (spiral) internal reinforcing ribs (splines) on the inside of a triple buddit tube made of original blended chromoly steel. The frame pipe which can be used in the actual war requested by the professional at that time is SSTB. What MIYATA produced is not just a cromolybike.
05-24-17 | 10:00 AM
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I've personally been lusting after the new Bridgestone. One of the wilder looking steel frames I've seen.
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https://bscycle.co.jp/global/common/pdf/RNC7_EQUIPE.pdf
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https://bscycle.co.jp/global/common/pdf/RNC7_EQUIPE.pdf
05-24-17 | 10:03 AM
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Hydroformed "lugs". The tube is flared out to become a "lug"
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05-24-17 | 11:09 AM
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Haha, no worries! I started looking for Miyata as I recalled Panasonic still makes their bikes as well. I probably should've named the thread as revived/survived Japanese brands
05-24-17 | 11:15 AM
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According to Wikipedia, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miyata
"Miyata has since reworked and reopened the Japanese factory but on a much smaller scale. Using the frame that won the a L’Alpe-d’Huez stage in the 1981 Tour de France, one can now order hand-built steel frames."
"Miyata has since reworked and reopened the Japanese factory but on a much smaller scale. Using the frame that won the a L’Alpe-d’Huez stage in the 1981 Tour de France, one can now order hand-built steel frames."
05-24-17 | 12:23 PM
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I looked up Merida, and it's an interesting story (wikipedia).
In 1984, I worked in a bike shop that sold Raleigh USA bikes. That's when the Raleigh name in the USA switched from the English company to Asian-made bikes, some made by Merida. In that year, Taiwan-made products were still not well regarded. Nowadays, most of us bike nuts know that some of the best bike stuff is made in Taiwan. The same is true of electronics.
In 1984, I worked in a bike shop that sold Raleigh USA bikes. That's when the Raleigh name in the USA switched from the English company to Asian-made bikes, some made by Merida. In that year, Taiwan-made products were still not well regarded. Nowadays, most of us bike nuts know that some of the best bike stuff is made in Taiwan. The same is true of electronics.
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05-24-17 | 12:34 PM
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I looked up Merida, and it's an interesting story (wikipedia).
In 1984, I worked in a bike shop that sold Raleigh USA bikes. That's when the Raleigh name in the USA switched from the English company to Asian-made bikes, some made by Merida. In that year, Taiwan-made products were still not well regarded. Nowadays, most of us bike nuts know that some of the best bike stuff is made in Taiwan. The same is true of electronics.
In 1984, I worked in a bike shop that sold Raleigh USA bikes. That's when the Raleigh name in the USA switched from the English company to Asian-made bikes, some made by Merida. In that year, Taiwan-made products were still not well regarded. Nowadays, most of us bike nuts know that some of the best bike stuff is made in Taiwan. The same is true of electronics.
05-24-17 | 01:04 PM
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The Centurion brand was created and owned by Western States Imports (WSI) in the USA but they failed to trademark it outside America, allowing Merida to control it elsewhere. WSI was bought by China Bicycle Company (CBC) in 1989 who dropped Centurion in favour of WSI's Diamondback brand, which had been used for BMX and ATBs. CBC's intention was to establish a single, globally recognized brand and they could not do that with Centurion due to trademark infringements.
05-24-17 | 02:08 PM
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With a love for my Miyata, I have read about the company over and again, so I was aware they are in business over in Japan right now. But that also meant that I saw they only make bikes up to 54cm!
Seeing as how my 63cm Miyata is as small as I can comfortably go, that dashed any hope of getting a new Miyata, no matter how fleeting the though was.
Seeing as how my 63cm Miyata is as small as I can comfortably go, that dashed any hope of getting a new Miyata, no matter how fleeting the though was.
05-24-17 | 02:36 PM
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The Miyata, along with the bike I posted, are for sale on Rakuten. "Shop Japan. We ship worldwide, bringing Japan directly to you." Has anybody used that website before?
Looks sweet in blue. $1,789.49.
hakusen | Rakuten Global Market: MIYATA SPORT (sport Miyata) MIYATA LS (for model with SHIMANO 105) cromoly road bike
Quill stem, even. Now I like it more.
Looks sweet in blue. $1,789.49.
hakusen | Rakuten Global Market: MIYATA SPORT (sport Miyata) MIYATA LS (for model with SHIMANO 105) cromoly road bike
Quill stem, even. Now I like it more.
05-24-17 | 02:40 PM
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With a love for my Miyata, I have read about the company over and again, so I was aware they are in business over in Japan right now. But that also meant that I saw they only make bikes up to 54cm!
Seeing as how my 63cm Miyata is as small as I can comfortably go, that dashed any hope of getting a new Miyata, no matter how fleeting the though was.
Seeing as how my 63cm Miyata is as small as I can comfortably go, that dashed any hope of getting a new Miyata, no matter how fleeting the though was.
05-24-17 | 02:45 PM
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The Centurion brand was created and owned by Western States Imports (WSI) in the USA but they failed to trademark it outside America, allowing Merida to control it elsewhere. WSI was bought by China Bicycle Company (CBC) in 1989 who dropped Centurion in favour of WSI's Diamondback brand, which had been used for BMX and ATBs. CBC's intention was to establish a single, globally recognized brand and they could not do that with Centurion due to trademark infringements.
05-24-17 | 02:47 PM
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The Miyata, along with the bike I posted, are for sale on Rakuten. "Shop Japan. We ship worldwide, bringing Japan directly to you." Has anybody used that website before?
Looks sweet in blue. $1,789.49.
hakusen | Rakuten Global Market: MIYATA SPORT (sport Miyata) MIYATA LS (for model with SHIMANO 105) cromoly road bike
Quill stem, even. Now I like it more.
Looks sweet in blue. $1,789.49.
hakusen | Rakuten Global Market: MIYATA SPORT (sport Miyata) MIYATA LS (for model with SHIMANO 105) cromoly road bike
Quill stem, even. Now I like it more.
I have to dig around on that site and see if they sell frame only. I had very good experience with Japanese stores in the past (mainly SimWorks and Fairweather, Blue Lug)
05-24-17 | 07:31 PM
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