Bike Forums

Bike Forums (https://www.bikeforums.net/forum.php)
-   Classic & Vintage (https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vintage/)
-   -   At the co-op (https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vintage/1121149-co-op.html)

Robvolz 06-04-25 07:32 PM

My knowledge is wrong on an hourly basis, but the 3000s, were top $$ and made by DeRosa and not in Mexico.

Never heard of a 3000 failure.

noglider 06-05-25 06:52 AM

We were speaking of valet parking. Yesterday I was offered valet parking for my bike at a fundraiser party for Transportation Alternatives which is a nonprofit advocacy group for walking, bikes, and mass transit. This is the first time I've seen it in NYC. It was lucky for me, too, as I didn't know it would be an elegant party with people all dressed up. I was the only one in shorts and a t-shirt. I thought it was going to be a street party, but it was held in the museum called New York Historical Society and it claims to be New York's first museum. Since I thought it was a street party, I didn't bring my bike lock.

Sorry I didn't take a picture.

VtwinVince 06-05-25 10:03 AM

I have a 3000 which is clearly stamped 'I' on the BB shell, which apparently differentiates it as an Italian-made model. I've heard that they were made in Mexico as well, and had problems with consistency in heat treating. Also, the 3000's were supposedly built by Benotto craftsmen at the De Rosa factory.

thumpism 08-09-25 12:01 PM

Two months after I spotted this Ideale 92H saddle and bravely walked away, I went back this morning to see if it was still around. It was, so I brought it home.
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...de29b54afe.jpg

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...56afa2fc27.jpg

They also had this CFR-2 that I left in position. There's a battered Stumpjumper behind it.
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...b7f374e29f.jpg

RCMoeur 08-09-25 05:30 PM


Originally Posted by thumpism (Post 23581755)
Two months after I spotted this Ideale 92H saddle and bravely walked away, I went back this morning to see if it was still around. It was, so I brought it home.
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...de29b54afe.jpg

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...56afa2fc27.jpg

So you caught it on the re-bour? :)

thumpism 08-09-25 08:00 PM


Originally Posted by RCMoeur (Post 23581941)
So you caught it on the re-bour? :)

Brrrrr-RUMP BUMP!

ThomasOmalley 08-15-25 06:01 PM

Cool Mikkelsen at waterside. I’m surprised it’s still here
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...003f27c50.jpeg

ShannonM 08-15-25 07:12 PM

I, too, was at Street Level Cycles in Berkeley today. (I collect bike shops, and just found out about them the other day in the restomod MB-Zip thread. Cool shop, cool bikes, cool dudes.

I picked up three used jerseys and 2 pair of arm warmers for $5. (I needed the 2nd pair of armwarmers to make 5 items for the 5-for-5 deal on used kit... they wouldn't let me only take 4 things.) They also do open shop on Saturdays and Sundays.

--Shannon

Robvolz 08-15-25 08:39 PM

Hey co-op worker bees.

How do you organize/display your handlebars?

They are the scourge of any display where I've been

RCMoeur 08-15-25 08:56 PM


Originally Posted by Robvolz (Post 23587677)
Hey co-op worker bees.

How do you organize/display your handlebars?

They are the scourge of any display where I've been

One bin for drop bars, one bin for flat / MTB / all-rounder / north road bars. Cruiser bars sometimes end up with the flat bars, or in a separate bin if they've been breeding. Bullhorn bars like to hang out with the drop bars, but sometimes end up in the flat bar bin. High-rise / BMX / bullmoose bars, when they arrive, typically don't last until the end of the shift.

Unless integrated or proprietary, stems are pulled and reside in separate bins (one for quill stems, another for threadless). We've tried segregating quill stems by diameter (21.1, 22.2, 25.4, etc.) but customers seem to always mix them back together.

bikingshearer 08-15-25 11:47 PM


Originally Posted by jPrichard10 (Post 23536062)
I might be grabbing one of these for my sister-in-law, but I wanted to be sure of some things.

I had heard some Benottos had high failure rates, and this includes the 3000.

I had also heard that the Mexican built Benottos copied many of the (otherwise signature) De Rosa techniques such as the heart cutout and diamond chainstays.

Not sure what to make of either of these rumors, but I don't want to build up a bike for my sister-in-law only to have the seat tube crack.

Who can assuage my fears?

I've heard the horror stories, although I have never seen a Benotto 3000 in the flesh, cracked or whole. My take is that they have been around for a lot of years now, the odds are that any that were going to crack have already cracked. and any riders that are still around are likely okay. If it has been a garage queen for the last 40 years, then the risk of a bad one goes up.

Of course, my opinion is worth exactly what you are paying for it.

VtwinVince 08-16-25 09:58 AM

The Mexican Benottos have been discussed before on the forum. I have a 3000 which has an 'I' stamped in the BB shell, allegedly meaning 'Italy'. Regardless, it is one of the nicest riding bikes of this era that I have.

jPrichard10 08-16-25 10:14 AM


Originally Posted by bikingshearer (Post 23587725)
I've heard the horror stories, although I have never seen a Benotto 3000 in the flesh, cracked or whole. My take is that they have been around for a lot of years now, the odds are that any that were going to crack have already cracked. and any riders that are still around are likely okay. If it has been a garage queen for the last 40 years, then the risk of a bad one goes up.

Of course, my opinion is worth exactly what you are paying for it.

These all appear to be unsold frames, hence the hesitation.

unworthy1 08-16-25 10:30 AM


Originally Posted by ThomasOmalley (Post 23587600)
Cool Mikkelsen at waterside. I’m surprised it’s still here
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...003f27c50.jpeg

well it IS clearly a custom-built frame, and might be too specifically for some odd duck's body that it will take awhile for a customer that fits it to find it.
What's the asking price?
I often go to the "fixit and used parts bins" shop they have down the road but as mentioned this is only open on weekends, or I'd go there even more often!

bikingshearer 08-16-25 11:13 AM


Originally Posted by jPrichard10 (Post 23587869)
These all appear to be unsold frames, hence the hesitation.

Got it. Hesitate away.

panzerwagon 08-16-25 04:18 PM


Originally Posted by noglider (Post 23532322)
I'm trying to work that out now. We finally got a trailer hitch rack for the car, but ain't no way I'm going to mount the bike side-to-side.

I’ve had success mounting one behind the minivan, removing both wheels, and flipping fork around. Assuming no front/rear racks, might provide just enough cover. Then again, modern vehicles keep getting taller and wider, so depends on yours.

I used to harbor visions of extending the roof cross-bars to the right, and mounting/clamping the tandem to the crossbar ends, alongside the right doors/windows. Like a shoulder mounted rocket launcher. This assumes strong crossbars, and that no vehicle occupants use those doors, or lack self-respect/feel embarrassment.

Good luck! :thumb:

cyccommute 08-16-25 04:45 PM


Originally Posted by panzerwagon (Post 23588046)
I’ve had success mounting one behind the minivan, removing both wheels, and flipping fork around. Assuming no front/rear racks, might provide just enough cover. Then again, modern vehicles keep getting taller and wider, so depends on yours.

I used to harbor visions of extending the roof cross-bars to the right, and mounting/clamping the tandem to the crossbar ends, alongside the right doors/windows. Like a shoulder mounted rocket launcher. This assumes strong crossbars, and that no vehicle occupants use those doors, or lack self-respect/feel embarrassment.

Good luck! :thumb:

I’ve carried my tandem from Denver to Burlington, VT and back on the back of my Nissan Frontier without issue. I’ve also used it to carry the tandem to Nebraska and Iowa. It rides quite well there. I use a cheap (used) Hollywood rack where I have moved the trays out board so that the wheels fit. The tandem is wider than the bed but narrower than the mirrors on my truck.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...27c3a4fab.jpeg

Here’s the only picture I have of the tandem on the truck and perspective makes the wheel look like it is sticking out further than it really is.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...81593f800.jpeg


ThomasOmalley 08-19-25 08:53 AM

unworthy1 if I remember correctly between $550-$650. It’s a tall ask for a small bike. My lady said “it’d be cuter with different handlebars.” I think it’d sell faster too.

I agree with your assessment. It is an oddball, likely made for someone with body dimensions that don’t fit the standard mold. I still think this bike is really cool and more specifically, very “Berkeley” cool. After all, what Berkeley local (regardless of gender) can resist a well made pink bike??

Darth Lefty 08-19-25 09:33 AM

I used to carry our Burley tandem on my F150 on a hitch rack, the kind that cradles the top tube. It stuck out past the sides of the bed but not past the large F250 style mirrors that come with the tow package. But it also works fine to carry it with the steering hung over the tailgate like a MTB

I should make a co-op run, I have quite a lot of stuff right now that doesn't fit any bike we presently own. My kids dumped some of it out a little while back so they could play with the box

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f24ea1506.jpeg


25.4TPI 08-19-25 12:53 PM

I recently found a fairly minty though mislabeled Lotus touring bicycle with Columbus tubing and some other nice details at our local co-op in Missoula, Freecycles. I’d been looking for an old tourer of the Miyata variety for a Euro trip we’ve planned for next spring, but couldn’t really pass this up. A little bit of TLC and some fresh grease had everything looking and riding like new. This is my first real nice steel lugged bike, and it really “planes.” I’ve got a few slight changes and additions planned, but already love it as-is.

I posted another thread on the touring forum with more detail about this bike if anyone is at all curious.

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...1a332fdf7.jpeg

Robvolz 08-19-25 03:13 PM

For pure adventure, nothing beats the Missoula co-op.

unworthy1 08-20-25 11:40 AM


Originally Posted by ThomasOmalley (Post 23589693)
unworthy1 if I remember correctly between $550-$650. It’s a tall ask for a small bike. My lady said “it’d be cuter with different handlebars.” I think it’d sell faster too.

I agree with your assessment. It is an oddball, likely made for someone with body dimensions that don’t fit the standard mold. I still think this bike is really cool and more specifically, very “Berkeley” cool. After all, what Berkeley local (regardless of gender) can resist a well made pink bike??

Yes that's a bit steep except it's a custom built frame by Bernie so if the buyer is also the perfect fit this is certainly much less than the original price!
But Bernie had put a lot of effort into his own "fit-kit" type frame measuring equipment so I bet it was very carefully "tuned" to the original customer...plus it's tig-welded and I'd be much more excited by a Mikkelsen with lugs! Except I bet he couldn't get these angles if he used lugs.

Pink is also very popular with wanna-be "Giro d'Italia Champions" whether in Berkeley or elsewhere :rolleyes:

25.4TPI 08-21-25 10:47 AM

Saw this at the coop the other day and it left me with a bit of an itch. I’m going to put some knobblies on this thing and race it in the local cyclocross circuit this fall. Setting a limit of $100 to get this ripping again. Coincidentally it’s the first Schwinn I’ve ever owned.

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...6dba1fe05.jpeg
OG “gravel” ride.
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...712586536.jpeg
Room for a lot more rubber
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...af9264587.jpeg
Wheels in top shape.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...9a168aca0.jpeg
Safety features.

thumpism 08-22-25 07:33 AM


Originally Posted by 25.4TPI (Post 23591006)
Saw this at the coop the other day and it left me with a bit of an itch. I’m going to put some knobblies on this thing and race it in the local cyclocross circuit this fall. Setting a limit of $100 to get this ripping again. Coincidentally it’s the first Schwinn I’ve ever owned.

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...6dba1fe05.jpeg
OG “gravel” ride.

Nice find. I believe the Crosspoint was the nicest--and least common--of the three Schwinn Cross hybrids of the '90s, the other two being the Crisscross and the Crosscut.

albrt 10-02-25 07:56 PM

Vintage bikes getting a little crazy at the Rusty Spoke in Phoenix.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...5692d3cd83.jpg
1972 Paramount (mostly Campy), Early 70s Mondia (mostly Campy), Panasonic DX5000, Schwinn Circuit, Gitane Tour de France, Cilo (mostly Campy), Miami Vice Centurion Iron Man, etc.


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:33 PM.


Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.