Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Classic & Vintage
Reload this Page >

Frame ID please?

Search
Notices
Classic & Vintage This forum is to discuss the many aspects of classic and vintage bicycles, including musclebikes, lightweights, middleweights, hi-wheelers, bone-shakers, safety bikes and much more.

Frame ID please?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 10-29-17 | 12:24 AM
  #1  
Thread Starter
Newbie
 
Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Frame ID please?

Hi,
I have been given a frame and fork that i am hoping someone can identify for me. It has all the usual PINARELLO decals but no other frame markings or serial number that i have found. Also it has a Reynolds 501 tubing sticker which confuses my search. Rear dropouts are Columbus however. Star shaped bottle bosses are also a feature. I realise it's not a high end frame, but still curious what i actually have.
Thanks for any info.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg
P1011455[1].jpg (561.2 KB, 111 views)
File Type: jpg
P1011457[1].jpg (641.7 KB, 112 views)
File Type: jpg
P1011459[1].jpg (1.01 MB, 111 views)
File Type: jpg
P1011461[1].jpg (957.2 KB, 111 views)
File Type: jpg
P1011463[1].jpg (711.7 KB, 110 views)
RG138 is offline  
Reply
Old 10-29-17 | 02:04 AM
  #2  
Full Member
 
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 346
Likes: 3
From: Retired to Penang Malaysia originally from UK

Bikes: My 1978 Raleigh from new, 1995 Trek, & constant changing & rebuilding of other bike projects.

I cannot help in any identification, but you can help to narrow it down a bit yourself.

The rear brake cable routing could be a very good pointer.
If the drive chain components are Shimano you should be able to date them, that will help determine within couple years the manufacture, (assuming they are original)
also if the handlebars are original they are normally date stamped, most likely also the stem.
Pull the fork out & see if there is any name or information stamped on it.
Measure the seat tube this opening will help determine the frame tubing.
Bike tinker man is offline  
Reply
Old 10-29-17 | 08:59 AM
  #3  
Bianchigirll's Avatar
Bianchi Goddess
Titanium Club Membership
15 Anniversary
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 28,888
Likes: 4,132
From: Shady Pines Retirement Fort Wayne, In

Bikes: Too many to list here check my signature.

The Renolds 501 decal looks odd to me. Did Pinerallo ever use 501? Or even Reynolds?
__________________
One morning you wake up, the girl is gone, the bikes are gone, all that's left behind is a pair of old tires and a tube of tubular glue, all squeezed out"

Sugar "Kane" Kowalczyk
Bianchigirll is offline  
Reply
Old 10-29-17 | 11:17 AM
  #4  
unworthy1's Avatar
Stop reading my posts!
20 Anniversary
Community Builder
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 13,994
Likes: 2,190
Originally Posted by Bianchigirll
The Renolds 501 decal looks odd to me. Did Pinerallo ever use 501? Or even Reynolds?
Nope, not to my knowledge. A LOT of 501 went to Peugeot, but this sure does not look like a 'pug'.The Columbus branded DOs point to an Italian frame, but the seatpost size and BB threading will be better clues, plus take the fork out and check the steerer for markings. That fork looks like it might be after-market, are the forkends also marked Columbus?
unworthy1 is offline  
Reply
Old 10-29-17 | 09:26 PM
  #5  
Thread Starter
Newbie
 
Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Thanks for the replies The seat post size is 27.2. I took the forks out and there is no markings in the steerer tube at all but drop outs are Columbus. Has another Reynolds 501 sticker on the fork blade though and a lot of glue residue from many stickers that had been removed. Maybe the previous owner just liked stickers?
Most running gear is Campag, though has a Shimano 600 rear derailleur.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg
P1011465[1].jpg (325.9 KB, 76 views)
File Type: jpg
P1011466[1].jpg (849.6 KB, 76 views)
File Type: jpg
P1011467[1].jpg (665.5 KB, 76 views)
File Type: jpg
P1011468[1].jpg (495.9 KB, 76 views)
File Type: jpg
P1011469[1].jpg (1.15 MB, 76 views)
RG138 is offline  
Reply
Old 10-30-17 | 01:03 AM
  #6  
unworthy1's Avatar
Stop reading my posts!
20 Anniversary
Community Builder
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 13,994
Likes: 2,190
Hmm if it's 27.2 i don't think either 501 single-butted or 501 double-butted would fit with that clue:both are heavier walled than 531 (or Columbus SL) and would take a smaller seat post UNLESS the tube was reamed well over what's "normal."
And what's the BB unit say? 36x24tpi or 1.37 x 24?
I'd bet that anyone using Columbus branded DOs and ends would also use their tubing.
unworthy1 is offline  
Reply
Old 10-30-17 | 06:05 AM
  #7  
Full Member
 
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 346
Likes: 3
From: Retired to Penang Malaysia originally from UK

Bikes: My 1978 Raleigh from new, 1995 Trek, & constant changing & rebuilding of other bike projects.

You are somewhat very fortunate that this famous company is in production, so you have nothing to loose by emailing them, assuming you do, & get a reply, be worth posting here for everyone's benefit. Could be a very interesting bike.
Bike tinker man is offline  
Reply
Old 10-30-17 | 07:02 AM
  #8  
Senior Member
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 23,212
Likes: 3,122
I seriously doubt it is Pinarello. The characteristics suggest mid-range and very late 1980s to early 1990s. By this time Pinarello was using self branded dropouts. Pinarello would also typically use white logos on this paint scheme and when there where two sets of bottles, they would use a seat tube decal with two logos, one on each side, so the bottle would not obscure the logo. Also, it is missing the palmares decal.

The seat post size and lack of logo on the steerer tube is consistent with Reynolds, as are the domed stay and fork ends, though this is not conclusive. Similarly, the Columbus dropouts lean towards Italian heritage but were also used elsewhere. Like the others, I'd be interested in knowing the threading standard stamped on the bottom bracket cups.
T-Mar is offline  
Reply
Old 10-30-17 | 06:39 PM
  #9  
Thread Starter
Newbie
 
Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Thanks for all the input Just checked BB cup. It's stamped 1.37 x 24
RG138 is offline  
Reply
Old 10-30-17 | 07:47 PM
  #10  
JohnDThompson's Avatar
Old fart
Titanium Club Membership
20 Anniversary
Community Builder
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 26,324
Likes: 5,235
From: Appleton WI

Bikes: Several, mostly not name brands.

English thread bottom bracket makes it doubtful to be a Pinarello. Fork crown looks like a Haden "Europa" crown, from England, although builders outside of England also used that crown. Build quality looks decent, though. Perhaps a small-production American builder rebadged as Pinarello by a subsequent owner?
JohnDThompson is offline  
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
gab11
Classic & Vintage
5
01-10-18 03:50 PM
Braden1550
Classic & Vintage
14
10-30-16 09:02 AM
Danecko
Classic & Vintage
4
10-27-15 09:38 AM
madebynick
Classic & Vintage
4
11-23-13 03:08 PM
Utedeej
Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals.
6
01-04-12 09:58 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.