If they had an offspring.
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I think one of the things we need to know is how much your Rawland weighs presently. Fully outfitted tourers of the '80s are going to be in the 25-28 lb range give or take. If your Stag is in that range then, well, that will be something to chew on.
Here is a guy who also has a Stag and built his down to 24.1 lb with accessories. You can tell us what's different and that may help us all figure out what weight savings could be had. A Shimano BBUN5x or UN7x are well-made, dead reliable BBs. IMO, it's not worth it to shave grams there. Your crankset can easily be switched out for (probably, I think) a lighter one--don't know the specific model of Sugino crank so who knows.
~1800g wheels, sub-300g folding tires (Compass ones, or Continental Gran Sport Race), light-weight fenders (perhaps not made of metal), a lighter but still super comfy saddle (Fizik Aliante carbon from a while ago, like on my Miyata 1000), and a Cannondale touring frame should do you real well I think. And you're in CT, Cannondalandia. It will more than hold its own among your fleet.
Here is a guy who also has a Stag and built his down to 24.1 lb with accessories. You can tell us what's different and that may help us all figure out what weight savings could be had. A Shimano BBUN5x or UN7x are well-made, dead reliable BBs. IMO, it's not worth it to shave grams there. Your crankset can easily be switched out for (probably, I think) a lighter one--don't know the specific model of Sugino crank so who knows.
~1800g wheels, sub-300g folding tires (Compass ones, or Continental Gran Sport Race), light-weight fenders (perhaps not made of metal), a lighter but still super comfy saddle (Fizik Aliante carbon from a while ago, like on my Miyata 1000), and a Cannondale touring frame should do you real well I think. And you're in CT, Cannondalandia. It will more than hold its own among your fleet.
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I'll submit, also, the Miyata 1000. 35mm tire clearance in the early '80s, and I think it just went up from there. Mid/Late '80s 1000 owners, please chime in. I have an '82 1000 with not-as-long 43.5cm chainstays, but wonderful overall geometry nonetheless. Built with 3x9 Campagnolo, it glides along the road. Very serene and composed. Never slouchy on acceleration or climbing, but just one of the loveliest rides you could imagine. It has top-end long-point lugs (same as the professional race models, no less) and high quality double-butted tubing.


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Bikes: 1958 Rabeneick 120D, 1968 Legnano Gran Premio, 196? Torpado Professional, 2000 Marinoni Piuma
Cyclops - the best riding bike that I have ever owned, built up and ridden...

Peugeot PX10 - a very close second to the best...

Tommasini - a close third but I no longer own the bicycle...

I can't help but wonder where this late fifties German steed will fit into the mix. I have test ridden the Rabeneick 120d but not enough to comment on ride quality...

All that said, I never allow any of my bikes to couple for reproduction purposes!-)

Peugeot PX10 - a very close second to the best...

Tommasini - a close third but I no longer own the bicycle...

I can't help but wonder where this late fifties German steed will fit into the mix. I have test ridden the Rabeneick 120d but not enough to comment on ride quality...

All that said, I never allow any of my bikes to couple for reproduction purposes!-)
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