RIP Super Record Front Derailleur...
09-12-18, 06:01 PM
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RIP Super Record Front Derailleur...
I spent some time today with the Giro build figuring out what to do next...what bar tape to use...what tires to buy...what color housing to choose.
As I fiddled with the front derailleur and noticing some grime and dirt on it I started cleaning and removing the limit screws. That was until i heard something snap. The limit screw broke off with half the screw still inside.
Another bonehead move I took it apart but couldn't get a clear path use needle nose pliers to attempt extracting the screw.
Well now its 20 minutes later and the screw is out but the threads are stripped and im pretty sure ive committed homocide. No longer does the derailleur have threads to hold new limit screws.
A question i have is if the front cage, bolts, screws and cage are of some value to others.
A moment of silence please........
Thank you.
As I fiddled with the front derailleur and noticing some grime and dirt on it I started cleaning and removing the limit screws. That was until i heard something snap. The limit screw broke off with half the screw still inside.
Another bonehead move I took it apart but couldn't get a clear path use needle nose pliers to attempt extracting the screw.
Well now its 20 minutes later and the screw is out but the threads are stripped and im pretty sure ive committed homocide. No longer does the derailleur have threads to hold new limit screws.
A question i have is if the front cage, bolts, screws and cage are of some value to others.
A moment of silence please........
Thank you.
09-12-18, 06:49 PM
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Yes, a handy person could chase the threads and replace the screw or drill out
Yes, a handy person could chase the threads and replace the screw or drill out and use a larger screw. The body is somewhat sacrificial because the cage and arms come off without drilling out rivets so that’s still useable. These bikes are simple, don’t over complicate it. Need a good set of tools and well stocked hardware store near by or old school bike shop.
09-12-18, 07:04 PM
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It does seem like it does all come apart easily but getting the threads redone or chased seems a bit pricey.
I always find it easier to replace a broken part than attempt to fix.
Nearest vintage bike shop is pretty far off and pricey to begin with. I may just buy another.
I always find it easier to replace a broken part than attempt to fix.
Nearest vintage bike shop is pretty far off and pricey to begin with. I may just buy another.
09-12-18, 07:44 PM
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I fix things. That is what I do as it is fun. You may not like fixing stuff so buy a replacement. They are cheap to be had.
09-12-18, 08:40 PM
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FWIW, you're not the only person around here that occasionally learns by breaking. Trust me on this. 
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Originally Posted by malcala622
I spent some time today with the Giro build figuring out what to do next...what bar tape to use...what tires to buy...what color housing to choose.
As I fiddled with the front derailleur and noticing some grime and dirt on it I started cleaning and removing the limit screws. That was until i heard something snap. The limit screw broke off with half the screw still inside.
Another bonehead move I took it apart but couldn't get a clear path use needle nose pliers to attempt extracting the screw.
Well now its 20 minutes later and the screw is out but the threads are stripped and im pretty sure ive committed homocide. No longer does the derailleur have threads to hold new limit screws.
A question i have is if the front cage, bolts, screws and cage are of some value to others.
A moment of silence please........
Thank you.
As I fiddled with the front derailleur and noticing some grime and dirt on it I started cleaning and removing the limit screws. That was until i heard something snap. The limit screw broke off with half the screw still inside.
Another bonehead move I took it apart but couldn't get a clear path use needle nose pliers to attempt extracting the screw.
Well now its 20 minutes later and the screw is out but the threads are stripped and im pretty sure ive committed homocide. No longer does the derailleur have threads to hold new limit screws.
A question i have is if the front cage, bolts, screws and cage are of some value to others.
A moment of silence please........
Thank you.
DD
09-12-18, 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Fahrenheit531
FWIW, you're not the only person around here that occasionally learns by breaking. Trust me on this.
09-12-18, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Drillium Dude
Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. Is it a clamp-on or braze-on fitting? I has sparez
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09-13-18, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Grand Bois
Is it rally Super Record?
09-13-18, 09:11 AM
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FWIW, you're not the only person around here that occasionally learns by breaking. Trust me on this.
Good advice accompanies this thought - always ensure that the threads are greased, more so when one is alloy and the other steel. Anyway, my boy's bike and it is not bad for a city junker, in my opinion...
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Originally Posted by Chombi1
Don't the SR FDs have TI bits on them? Thise could be worth something....
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It's only aluminium
Originally Posted by Grand Bois
Nope.
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Originally Posted by Chombi1
Don't the SR FDs have TI bits on them? Thise could be worth something....
The Super Record rear derailleur does have titanium upper and lower pivot bolts and a slightly different pulley cage than the Nuovo Record.
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Originally Posted by Johno59
Use a lock nut and bolt of the same thread to set the hanger travel stop. If not enough space go for a different TPI thread or even imperial/Raleigh thread and cut a new thread in the Al body as you go to the sweet spot. It just means get the adjustment correct the first time you wrench it home.
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Originally Posted by Grand Bois
Is that supposed to be a response to my post?
What have you got to lose.
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Originally Posted by Johno59
Yes. You have a stripped M 3 mm thread in Aluminium. A 1/8 imperial bolt should track down tight. If not a imperial tap will. Failing that a nut on both sides of the stripped housing will secure a M3 bolt at the correct depth for correct chain positioning.
What have you got to lose.
What have you got to lose.
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Originally Posted by malcala622
It does seem like it does all come apart easily but getting the threads redone or chased seems a bit pricey.
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Originally Posted by malcala622
Nope
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Originally Posted by malcala622
Nope
Originally Posted by JohnDThompson
No, the only difference between the Record and Super Record front derailluers is that the arms of the Super Record were anodized black.
The Super Record rear derailleur does have titanium upper and lower pivot bolts and a slightly different pulley cage than the Nuovo Record.
The Super Record rear derailleur does have titanium upper and lower pivot bolts and a slightly different pulley cage than the Nuovo Record.
Pretty sure the SR adjusting screws are titanium.
Edit: Nope. Same steel part number, 774
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Originally Posted by Reynolds
You can buy a tap for less than $10. It's not that hard to redo the threads.
09-14-18, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by artclone
Yes, that's SR.
09-14-18, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by artclone
Oh good.
Not sure why you said "nope" then.
09-14-18, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by artclone
Not sure why you have this rude attitude, but if you look now at Grand Bois' post you'll see what I saw, which explains what happened here.
Grand Bois must have corrected "rally" to "really" after you replied but before I read this thread.
In the future maybe assume people are being helpful, not stupid.
I didnt see his correction.
