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Old 11-20-18, 10:16 AM
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How do I Get a Frame Pump?

Recently I've been looking for a frame pump for my 1975 Fuji S-10S but have had no luck.
I was wondering if anyone knows how and where to get an 18" frame pump.
I'm relatively new to the bike community so that's why I'm asking.

Thank you for your time. 😊
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As far as I know there are no modern pumps designed to fit in a frame. Look on eBay, Craigslist, and the like for Silca Imperio, Zefal HP, and other frame pumps.

(Edited to admit that I was not aware that Zefal in particular still makes the HP pumps! That is good news.)
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Zefal HPX is what you want. I have one on my early 90s vintage Bianchi. Works great. There are 4 sizes so you should be able to find one that fits your frame. HPX-2 fits frames from 16-1/8" to18-1/8". HPX-3 fits frames from 18 1/8" to 20 1/8". They run $25 to $35 depending on the vendor.

HPX - ZEFAL

Also, you'll get more answers if you post this on "General Cycling" or "Bicycle Mechanics". Perhaps one of the "moderators" can move it for you

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Originally Posted by Hoopdriver View Post
@owen robinson

Zefal HPX is what you want. I have one on my early 90s vintage Bianchi. Works great. There are 4 sizes so you should be able to find one that fits your frame. HPX-2 fits frames from 16-1/8" to18-1/8". HPX-3 fits frames from 18 1/8" to 20 1/8". They run $25 to $35 depending on the vendor.

HPX - ZEFAL

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+1 Amazon has them.

The HPX seem to have good reviews. "Other" & "related" pumps, not so much.
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Old 11-20-18, 12:49 PM
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Another HPX fan. The Zephal "Classic" looks like the old long discontinued HP but is in fact an HPX. (Both the old HPs from the early '70s on and the HPXs are/were excellent pumps. The HPX has a frame fit head, the HP requires a pump peg or the umbrella-like fitting. HPXs have a lockout of the spring in the handle that keeps the pump secure on the bike. With the lock-out, you do not have to pump against that spring. The HPs were the (slightly) more robust pump; in part just because they were simpler. Both pumps are some of the best bike pumps ever made. When I raced in the '70s, I owned 2-3 bikes, all on sew-ups, and used only the pumps on my bikes. I only replaced them due to: losing or having them borrowed and cars running over them. (One survived and I used it for many more years,)

There are other frame pumps out there but I see little reason to stray from the Zephals. There is one real drawback however. If you ride with others, your Zephal will see use inflating tires that are not yours (when their inflation devices fail or expire). You will not see the return favor. One of my HPXs died on a gravel ride when there were more than 20 flats among the dozen of us. I got tired of pumping (for the flats of others; I had none) and the pump came back to me busted. It still pumped air but the spring in the handle was messed up so I couldn't carry it on the bike.

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I'm also an HPX fan. It wasn't too expensive back when I got it, its been maybe like 20 years ago. Still works well.
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The Zefal HP and HPX are excellent pumps but if you are looking for a between the frame tubes type fit then the Zefal Rev 88 is the ticket. It comes in black, has a reversible presta/schrader head and is available in 4 different lengths to fit different frame openings. I bought one for a resto I was doing and find it quite good. SJS Cycles in the UK sells them here: https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/pumps/si...it-cycle-pump/ for about US $6.50.
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Originally Posted by owen robinson View Post
Recently I've been looking for a frame pump for my 1975 Fuji S-10S but have had no luck.
I was wondering if anyone knows how and where to get an 18" frame pump.
I'm relatively new to the bike community so that's why I'm asking.

Thank you for your time. ��
Are you looking for the original Primus pump (that came with the bike) ? I hated that thing with it's screw-on hose! Seriously, it lost so much tire pressure while unscrewing the hose that I pitched it and bought an aftermarket pump with a 'quick release'...

What frame size is your '75 S-10S? Here's my 23" '75 wearing it's fourth Zefal HP in 42 years (two previous ones were lost to being bent on doggie noggins, one caught a pant leg/torn loose and got run over) You can still find the original (used) Zefal HPs in thrift shops, bike co-ops or on auction sites...

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Old 11-20-18, 09:08 PM
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+1 vote for the HPX Zefal pump. Really loved my HPX and got to use it for all sorts of inflation tasks since I bought mine in the mid 80's. I lost it though, when I left in the trunk of a car I traded in, some years ago...
Be aware though, that the HPX is not a lightweight pump. Which is why it was so rugged and reliable. Unlike the plastic Silca Impero frame pumps which were featherweights, but dang, I remember seeing bins of the Silca pumps in the 80's at my LBS all broken and missing parts, even before they were sold.....that's why I never bothered with them, despite their popularity...
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Old 11-20-18, 09:59 PM
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….and then there is the modern day Silca frame pump
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Originally Posted by SJX426 View Post
Ö.and then there is the modern day Silca frame pump
165 bucks???! No Thanks!.....
At that price it should at least pump itself!
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Another hpx fan

Works great!
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HP fan (have 4 of them), but I'll put in a vote for the Park Tool frame pump. One size fits all.

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Have a few HPX Zefals and they work great.
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Is the Topeak Road Masterblaster no longer available? It is a superb pump though it should have been renamed before it ever saw the light of day.
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Originally Posted by Chombi1 View Post
165 bucks???! No Thanks!.....
At that price it should at least pump itself!
I agree that $165 is a bit pricey.

OTOH, Silca frame pumps seem to last forever.

I still have the Impero frame pump, with Campy metal head, that I bought original with my Bottecchia.

BTW, the new Silca does not pump itself. It, however, comes with its own domestique to do the pumping.


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Actually while a little harder to find Primus did make non-hose frame bike pumps. I have two of them on my vintage Japanese bikes and they work fine. True to their age one 1972 (dated from the bike it came with a Nishiki Competition, loop frame) and the other probably in the 80s, they are copies of the Silca frame pump.
Here is the later 80s frame pump, other than the aluminum sleeve at the pump head the body, handle and pump head are all plastic, but the pump works just fine.


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But here is the one you want to get the 1972 Primus frame pump. From the pump head it may be a Primus DX as that is stamped into the ring face that pinches the rubber seal onto your presta valve. This pump not only copies the Silca pump but also the Campagnolo pump head design. Unlike the 80s Primus frame pump this pump is of all metal construction. It too works fine.



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If you want vintage, HP is the way to go. I have a handful of them on bikes. Some employ the umbrella stop, others a pump peg. But all are rock solid when installed properly.

The cool thing about the pump is that replacement gaskets are still available. Donít bother with eBay, just go directly to the Zefal website. I bought two NOS pumps that didnít hold air for cheap, replaced the gaskets and I just bought another 20 years of use.
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This bicycle here has a seat tube that also acts as a pump: https://www.ricardo.ch/de/a/vintage-...elo-913011578/
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Originally Posted by Chombi1 View Post
+1 vote for the HPX Zefal pump. Really loved my HPX and got to use it for all sorts of inflation tasks since I bought mine in the mid 80's. I lost it though, when I left in the trunk of a car I traded in, some years ago...
Be aware though, that the HPX is not a lightweight pump. Which is why it was so rugged and reliable. Unlike the plastic Silca Impero frame pumps which were featherweights, but dang, I remember seeing bins of the Silca pumps in the 80's at my LBS all broken and missing parts, even before they were sold.....that's why I never bothered with them, despite their popularity...
They weren't that bad... Silca pumps were lighter and pumped faster, which is why all the racer types used them. They did/do require proper technique, which generally has to be demonstrated: thumb around tire, first finger curled around back of pump head, other finger hold the end, and don't rock the barrel and twist the valve. Once you get the hang of it, they last indefinitely. I used the same Silca with a campy head for 25 years, until it was stolen from my sister's garage when the bike it went on was in storage.

For this bike though, I agree with you and everyone else, a Zefal HPX is the way to go. Another +1 from me. Great reliable pumps.
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I bought a Zefal frame pump waaaaay back in '85 when I bought my last Peugeot. I still have both and both look and perform as well as they did on day one.
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I’ve seen several in local thrift shops over the last few years. Hit a bump and the one I had on the Cannondale popped off and got run over by my rear tire. Found another pump a week later. You just have to keep your eyes open.
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guess I'm C&V myself..

I have Silca Imperos, I bought new.. and one made by blackburn a while ago ..
20+ years..

Given Zefal is available now , Go the path of least resistance ..
or search auction sites..
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