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Old 12-17-18, 06:10 PM
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Restore a PX-10?

In 1972 I bought a Peugeot PX-10. Still have it. The white paint is showing surface rust spots from sitting in the garage.

Looking for opinions... should it be left original (scruffy) or repaint? It has never been modified.
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Old 12-17-18, 06:13 PM
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Pictures would, of course help. My usual method is to use touch up paint to keep the bike original and improve on scruffy looks.
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Old 12-17-18, 07:26 PM
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I think my favorite look is scruffy and cared for. Clothing with tidy patching, houses with generations of additions, bicycles that look awesome from 10 feet away.
When I was a kid my first car developed a rust patch on the edge of a door. I sanded the rust off, down to the metal, masked it and primed it.
I remember being really surprised at how much better it looked just after prepped and primed. Withouth the final coats of matching paint it still looked cared for. A few threads have been started recently asking about how much restoration to get into, and I think the main thing is to have a bicycle that looks loved.
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Old 12-17-18, 07:36 PM
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Flat white rustoleum paint is an excellent match for that white. I used it on a mid 70s PR 10 to deal with minor rust and the match was very good.
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Old 12-17-18, 07:39 PM
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My PX-10 was abused by the previous owner, with the frame straightened after a front end collision and rattle-canned pale blue to "protect" the tubes where the crash flaked the paint. I had it repainted. We will wait for pictures but I suggest that you do not repaint your's. The paint and primer on mine ('69) was very thick and protected the frame wonderfully. The clear coat on the chrome did a fantastic job. I can understand if you want to make it look brand new again and have the $$ and a painter you trust to do it right.
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Old 12-17-18, 08:03 PM
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I bought a PH10 new back in '85. Still have it. Still ride it--my N bike. The pearl white paint looks as good as the day it was new. I always get a compliment or three every time I ride it.
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Great quality frameset.. Probably worth the time and efforts!

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Originally Posted by bikemig View Post
Flat white rustoleum paint is an excellent match for that white. I used it on a mid 70s PR 10 to deal with minor rust and the match was very good.
...this. A full repaint with decals seems excessive given your description of the problem, It's a relatively easy white to match. Mask everything you don't want to get paint on, prep your rusted spots, primer them in white, and then find a good white match for your color coat. If you use a flat, you'll probly get a better final match by clear coating over it.

AS tempting as it is to try to do this without stripping off all the components, don't do it. You get much more control with a bare frame and fork when it comes time to apply the paint (or paints).
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Old 12-17-18, 10:09 PM
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I agree with touching up. Still have spots to touch up on my bike but can’t tell from a few feet away. If you have the time, polishing the crankset, brakes, and calipers are rewarding. Going to replace the incorrect Reynolds decals soon.
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I agree with touching up. Still have spots to touch up on my bike but can’t tell from a few feet away. If you have the time, polishing the crankset, brakes, and calipers are rewarding. Going to replace the incorrect Reynolds decals soon.
Any tips on polishing that metal if you don't have access to a grinder? I've been hoping to touch up a couple of crank arms.
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Originally Posted by Hailstorm_7 View Post
Any tips on polishing that metal if you don't have access to a grinder? I've been hoping to touch up a couple of crank arms.
I used sandpaper that I got from the auto parts store. I worked my way up from 180 grit to 320, 600, 2000 (wet sanding), and finally 3000. I would probably include a 1000 grit in there as well.

I rinsed the metal with soap water before using a polish kit that I ordered from Amazon for ~$35 (came with several cotton wheels and the compounds) I attached the wheels to a hand drill. Used the brown then white compound.

If you search “Bikeit UK polish” on Youtube, you’ll find video titled “How to clean and polish metal to a mirror finish” that I recommend watching.

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Originally Posted by Mr_Asifi View Post


I used sandpaper that I got from the auto parts store. I worked my way up from 180 grit to 320, 600, 2000 (wet sanding), and finally 3000. I would probably include a 1000 grit in there as well.

I rinsed the metal with soap water before using a polish kit that I ordered from Amazon for ~$35 (came with several cotton wheels and the compounds) I attached the wheels to a hand drill. Used the brown then white compound.

If you search “Bikeit UK polish” on Youtube, you’ll find video titled “How to clean and polish metal to a mirror finish” that I recommend watching.

Thank you, sir. I think I've seen that video, and I'll definitely take another look to refresh the knowledge.
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Old 12-18-18, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by greenspark View Post
In 1972 I bought a Peugeot PX-10. Still have it. The white paint is showing surface rust spots from sitting in the garage.

Looking for opinions... should it be left original (scruffy) or repaint? It has never been modified.
This is a great opening for opinion.

If in your shoes, I would completely service, clean and keep it original... even if it looks somewhat tired. The storyline is more remarkable and to many, if considering monetary value a better find.

Its also largely about the character of this bike. Less percentage of finding an original from the first owner. And you're riding it. Too cool!

On the other hand, they made large numbers of this production racer, not rare but was a super value and well proven winner in pro racing. So if restoring with repainting is your wish, do enjoy the project.

I have a bike acquired from a few years back and left me in a similar debate. UK made, circa 1972 Whitcomb tt racer. Really tattered looking but all there and original from one owner. Most would repaint it but after I was holding just the old frame my mind zeroed in on 'its only original once' plus with having bits of its origin, story, the continents it was ridden.

Decided then to smooth out the nasty edges take care of the surface corrosion and then multi rub down with wax. No clear coat. Sorted out the components, fresh brake blocks and period vintage tubulars, new but like the period cloth bar wrap.

Love this bike and especially while on Sat. group rides when the fast kids are on modern high zoot bikes. Have to say and I do grin when they compliment the 'old school' and as raced look. Hard to explain but it seems to say 'thanks for the respect'!

This particular bike is all race business, no fancy graphics or loud color paint. Just plain silver with white letters of the brand. That's all.

Funny and the contrary is when I show up to these rides on something fresher or painted, the reactions are meh and the snub of 'get a new bike, man'.
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Old 12-19-18, 10:46 AM
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Repainting a vintage bicycle is an absolute last resort issue for my. I can best explain my reasoning if you take the time to look through Should I Paint My Bike?

Simply put, a bike can be original only one time but it can be repainted, sometimes at considerable cost, thousands of times. A repainted bike will never have the collectible value of one that is original. A repainted bike might not actually be what it is purported to be by the seller (put another way, buyer beware).

Touch up, for preservation purposes, is a good idea, providing that there are not a lot of paint chips or blemishes.
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