Thoughts on respacing/aligning a Miyata Two Ten
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Thoughts on respacing/aligning a Miyata Two Ten

Bike in question.
A Two Ten I picked up on Craigslist 3 or so years ago. Serial # 0A 38005 so 1986?
Rear wheel is 630 bsd Sun CR18 rim with a Deore XT hub spaced at 135. 7 speed loose cog cassette, 13-15-17-20-24-29-34. Chainrings, 50-38-24. UN-53 bottom bracket.
Previous owner remade the bike for his use, as well he should have.
Rear is 135 wide but not straight. I have never cold set a frame. Time to learn. Per St. Sheldon I have my string & 2x4 ready.
I assume frame was 126 to start. Going to 135 seems a stretch to me. Was it too far?
Back to 130? (I realize need different rear wheel if I reduce the width.)
Make it straight at 135 and declare success?
Thanks
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Are you keeping the rear wheel or do you want to go for a 130mm road wheel? Depends on your plans for the bike and what level of groupset. Freebub cassette starts at 7 speed and 130mm. In general 126mm constrains you to 6 and 7 speed freewheel (although there are 126mm cassette hubs).
Since it is already 135 i would make it a straight 130 and make a wheelset around some road spaced 130mm hubs.
Since it is already 135 i would make it a straight 130 and make a wheelset around some road spaced 130mm hubs.
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I cringe every time somebody mentions the Sheldon 2x4 method. I find that the shaft from a broken wooden hockey stick is far more efficient as a tool for cold setting bicycle frames. A 2x4 is unwieldy. The ergonomically sized hockey stick shaft makes it far easier to modulate force, resulting in less trial and error. At this time of year, there is typically a ready supply available for free, around the dumpster area outside ice skating rinks.
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I cringe every time somebody mentions the Sheldon 2x4 method. I find that the shaft from a broken wooden hockey stick is far more efficient as a tool for cold setting bicycle frames. A 2x4 is unwieldy. The ergonomically sized hockey stick shaft makes it far easier to modulate force, resulting in less trial and error. At this time of year, there is typically a ready supply available for free, around the dumpster area outside ice skating rinks.
Will keep an eye out for a hockey stick but not common I my life.
Can I do this with the frame in a repair stand or do I have to lay it on the floor?
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Maybe it is not straight to avoid the crankset. If you keep it 135, will the dropouts need to move to the drive side? Make sure you have clearance.
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Thanks for the heads up.
I am going to wait a little longer to see if any more things I didn't know or consider are pointed out. Don't want to hear from Red Forman
Thanks again
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I have cold set stays many times using the String Method to ensure center line symmetry...
And the two by four is the perfect tool for the job...

And the two by four is the perfect tool for the job...
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In this way, you can have the stays pointing out toward you as you face the workbench. This makes it easier to see what's going on with the dropouts, and you can measure the width/ align them for parallel with ease. The place where you measure the string distance from the seat tube is right over the vise, so easily measured on each side. As a bonus, you can often respace a frame simply by grabbing both stays on one side or the other with your hands, and pushing hard against them for a small nudge either outward or inward.
Anyway, if you have access to a solid bench vise, try it. It doesn't have to be all that big a vise, but it does need to be mounted to something that will stay put and not slide around, which is the problem trying to do this in a workstand.
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Can I do this with the frame in a repair stand or do I have to lay it on the floor?
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