Headset Mounted Cable Hanger
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Headset Mounted Cable Hanger
I saw that my ‘grail cable yoke’ thread was bumped up today- and it got me to thinking...
What are the fancy-pants options for a 1” threaded headset mounted cable hanger?
I’ve used the quick release cable hangers, but it occurred to me that most of my brakes either have QRs or don’t need QRs.
What’s out there?
What are the fancy-pants options for a 1” threaded headset mounted cable hanger?
I’ve used the quick release cable hangers, but it occurred to me that most of my brakes either have QRs or don’t need QRs.
What’s out there?
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What’s everyone using for aero brake routing? Does the DC quick-release sit low enough to give a good angle for the brake cable? O
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I have used a noodle in cases where the bend got tight.
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Around 2000 I picked up a HS hanger designed for low aero braked HBs. It was a nice aluminum hanger, good black epoxy paint and an 1 1/2" brass tube that bent more than 45 degrees. The tube had the protrusion to fit into their (or any other) hanger and a belled out opposite end for the cable. I was running a very long and low quill and bent it even further, to nearly 90 degrees. The tube has seen continuous use on my winter/rain/city bike.
I did the additional bend very carefully so as to not bind on the cable. It was years ago and I don't remember the details but I think I bent a spoke to fit inside the tube, bent it and pulled out the spoke (with some difficulty as I recall). The day will come that the cable will wear through the tube but I think I have perhaps 20,000 miles on it so I have no complaints. And every time I ride that bike, I get reminded it has "stoppers!" (Mafac Racers and Tektro levers.)
I recall getting that hanger at a Trek dealer and coming in nicely done packaging. I wish I remembered the brand.
Edit: I never saw the term "noodle" applied to this part but it does fit.
Ben
I did the additional bend very carefully so as to not bind on the cable. It was years ago and I don't remember the details but I think I bent a spoke to fit inside the tube, bent it and pulled out the spoke (with some difficulty as I recall). The day will come that the cable will wear through the tube but I think I have perhaps 20,000 miles on it so I have no complaints. And every time I ride that bike, I get reminded it has "stoppers!" (Mafac Racers and Tektro levers.)
I recall getting that hanger at a Trek dealer and coming in nicely done packaging. I wish I remembered the brand.
Edit: I never saw the term "noodle" applied to this part but it does fit.
Ben
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https://www.paulcomp.com/shop/compon...-cable-hanger/ If you have the space on your fork steerer.. stiff solid..

If Not , You go with the Steel ones above.. (a Mafac one is on my CX bike)
Its the drop that helps when you use aero brake cable routing . but up and over the stem works too .. opens up a tight bend in the housing
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If Not , You go with the Steel ones above.. (a Mafac one is on my CX bike)
Its the drop that helps when you use aero brake cable routing . but up and over the stem works too .. opens up a tight bend in the housing
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The Paul is definitely something to think about.
However, Just when I thought I found exactly what I was looking for- I find it's sold out...
https://global.bluelug.com/fairweath...er-thread.html

I would have gotten away with it too, if it hadn't been for those meddling kids.
However, Just when I thought I found exactly what I was looking for- I find it's sold out...
https://global.bluelug.com/fairweath...er-thread.html

I would have gotten away with it too, if it hadn't been for those meddling kids.
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The Paul is definitely something to think about.
However, Just when I thought I found exactly what I was looking for- I find it's sold out...
https://global.bluelug.com/fairweath...er-thread.html
I would have gotten away with it too, if it hadn't been for those meddling kids.
However, Just when I thought I found exactly what I was looking for- I find it's sold out...
https://global.bluelug.com/fairweath...er-thread.html
I would have gotten away with it too, if it hadn't been for those meddling kids.
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Tektro - About $12 on Amazon - Bell Bikes.
It has an inside diameter of 25 mm so I made a shim using copper pipe to fit the 22 mm stem adapter that is shown.

It has an inside diameter of 25 mm so I made a shim using copper pipe to fit the 22 mm stem adapter that is shown.

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The Paul is definitely something to think about.
However, Just when I thought I found exactly what I was looking for- I find it's sold out...
https://global.bluelug.com/fairweath...er-thread.html

I would have gotten away with it too, if it hadn't been for those meddling kids.
However, Just when I thought I found exactly what I was looking for- I find it's sold out...
https://global.bluelug.com/fairweath...er-thread.html

I would have gotten away with it too, if it hadn't been for those meddling kids.
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I got this from Nashbar for a couple of bucks when they were blowing 'em out last year. Similar to the Tektro, minus the barrel adjuster. Turned out to be the wrong size, although [MENTION=479432]jlaw[/MENTION]'s shim would work as well.
I went with the simpler stamped metal type illustrated near the top of the thread. Works, although it didn't get the front brake cable loop as low as I'd like. I wanted it under the handlebar. So I may figure out a way to make the extended and angled hanger work.

Nashbar anodized aluminum cable hanger, minus barrel adjuster.

Nashbar anodized aluminum cable hanger, minus barrel adjuster.
I went with the simpler stamped metal type illustrated near the top of the thread. Works, although it didn't get the front brake cable loop as low as I'd like. I wanted it under the handlebar. So I may figure out a way to make the extended and angled hanger work.

Nashbar anodized aluminum cable hanger, minus barrel adjuster.

Nashbar anodized aluminum cable hanger, minus barrel adjuster.
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Here's the custom one I made for my last bike, I ended up selling it to someone who was interested, I'm thinking about making a couple more:


-Devin


-Devin
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Just drill the stem to pass the cable through. Jan Heine asked Nitto engineers if it was acceptable, they OK'd it, and he published a tutorial in Bicycle Quarterly a few years back. My Ron Cooper touring rig has a drilled Nitto Technomic Deluxe and my Vitus 979 has a drilled Cinelli 1A and I still have all my teeth. I've also done three old Sakae Ringyo stems for two of my friends. They also still have all their teeth. Drill the smallest hole you can get away with for the cable, then peel back 4mm of the outer rubber from the housing and counterbore about 3mm deep in this size. It's the only cable hanger that has negative weight and it is stiff as a rock!
Or get one of those quill MTB stems from the '90s with built-in hanger (most are ugly), or some Herse/Singer/Routens/Goeland/Charrel constructeur thingy (pretty but pricey and likely in a French size although Jack Taylor made standard 22.2 quill filet brazed aftermarket stems with cable hangers for anyone who could pay and these show up on Ebay from time to time).
On bikes with a really short stem I have also hung a cable hanger meant for a seat binder from the handlebar pinch bolt.
Or get one of those quill MTB stems from the '90s with built-in hanger (most are ugly), or some Herse/Singer/Routens/Goeland/Charrel constructeur thingy (pretty but pricey and likely in a French size although Jack Taylor made standard 22.2 quill filet brazed aftermarket stems with cable hangers for anyone who could pay and these show up on Ebay from time to time).
On bikes with a really short stem I have also hung a cable hanger meant for a seat binder from the handlebar pinch bolt.
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I got this Ritchey front brake hanger back in 1992. It's really ridged with no flex.

BTW, that's a prototype King headset.
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BTW, that's a prototype King headset.
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CLB fRONT Front Cable Hanger
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Over the past few years I've seen a number of C&V aficionados especially in the CR group who are overly enthralled with the old cast aluminum CLB cable hangers, particularly the ones with the castellated teeth to fit Stronglight P3 and V4 headsets.
Personal experience BITD: I tried several of these CLB hangers on my first off road bike with MAFAC cantilever brakes. Both broke before I could try them out for real. I also had several break on customer's bikes.
They were poorly designed (wimpy) and the cast aluminum was too weak!
213, 213M, 213ER, 214

The cheapest MAFAC brakes used these stamped hangers. They flex.

The better ones had these stamped hangers, thicker with reinforcing curves in the front . They flexed a lot less and came in plated steel and stainless steel versions.

Both Weinmann and Dia-Comp provided these stamped steel hangers with reinforcements to add rigidity. They also had versions with QRs.

verktyg

Over the past few years I've seen a number of C&V aficionados especially in the CR group who are overly enthralled with the old cast aluminum CLB cable hangers, particularly the ones with the castellated teeth to fit Stronglight P3 and V4 headsets.
Personal experience BITD: I tried several of these CLB hangers on my first off road bike with MAFAC cantilever brakes. Both broke before I could try them out for real. I also had several break on customer's bikes.
They were poorly designed (wimpy) and the cast aluminum was too weak!
213, 213M, 213ER, 214

The cheapest MAFAC brakes used these stamped hangers. They flex.

The better ones had these stamped hangers, thicker with reinforcing curves in the front . They flexed a lot less and came in plated steel and stainless steel versions.

Both Weinmann and Dia-Comp provided these stamped steel hangers with reinforcements to add rigidity. They also had versions with QRs.

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Just drill the stem to pass the cable through. Jan Heine asked Nitto engineers if it was acceptable, they OK'd it, and he published a tutorial in Bicycle Quarterly a few years back. My Ron Cooper touring rig has a drilled Nitto Technomic Deluxe and my Vitus 979 has a drilled Cinelli 1A and I still have all my teeth. I've also done three old Sakae Ringyo stems for two of my friends. They also still have all their teeth. Drill the smallest hole you can get away with for the cable, then peel back 4mm of the outer rubber from the housing and counterbore about 3mm deep in this size. It's the only cable hanger that has negative weight and it is stiff as a rock!
Or get one of those quill MTB stems from the '90s with built-in hanger (most are ugly), or some Herse/Singer/Routens/Goeland/Charrel constructeur thingy (pretty but pricey and likely in a French size although Jack Taylor made standard 22.2 quill filet brazed aftermarket stems with cable hangers for anyone who could pay and these show up on Ebay from time to time).
On bikes with a really short stem I have also hung a cable hanger meant for a seat binder from the handlebar pinch bolt.
Or get one of those quill MTB stems from the '90s with built-in hanger (most are ugly), or some Herse/Singer/Routens/Goeland/Charrel constructeur thingy (pretty but pricey and likely in a French size although Jack Taylor made standard 22.2 quill filet brazed aftermarket stems with cable hangers for anyone who could pay and these show up on Ebay from time to time).
On bikes with a really short stem I have also hung a cable hanger meant for a seat binder from the handlebar pinch bolt.
Simple, rigid and, unfortunately, inflexible if you need to adjust the stem height.
Changing the stem height requires redoing the front brake cable. PITA. My Univega's original stem was already low as it would go and that was fine for a couple of years. But as my neck and back flexibility improved I wanted the stem lower to get a bit more aero for long slogs into headwinds (like Wednesday night -- 12 miles home into 20 mph headwind with gusts).
So recently I swapped to the 0 angle stem I'd taken off my road bike. Put a stamped cable hanger in the headset. Now I can adjust the stem as desired without affecting the cable.
Only problem is I want the front brake cable loop under the albatross handlebar like the rest of the cables. So eventually I'll try a different cable hanger, maybe one of the Tektros that bolts to the canti brake bolt.
But once you've settled on a setup you like the cable hanger through stem trick would be fine.

My Univega last year, original stem with built-in cable hanger (counterbored holes). Since then I've switched to a zero angle stem, stamped metal cable hanger in the headset and albatross bar.

Overhead view, same stem, different bar. Now it has a zero angle stem from my road bike, stamped cable hanger in the headset.
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