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Old 04-22-19, 12:44 PM
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Bob Jackson painted

I was planning to get my frame powder coated but the fellow doing it was having a lot of trouble with taping in the lugs with the heat resistant tape. Another method he tried (wiping the powder off before baking) failed also so he gave up. I got the frame back from him with a partial job done so it has a good base to spray on and he didn't charge me anything for the blasting and initial coating.

Long story short I brought it home, got some RAL 2011 mixed, dusted off my painting equipment and shot it. It turned out good considering I had no suitable place to paint except for one sag I wont bother to fix under the seat clamp bolt. Applied the decals From H Lloyd and some others I made now I wait for the transfers to dry.

I printed some solid panels instead of painting them on the frame and now where they overlap it looks darker. I may cover this area with pinstripe but I am undecided. Looking for thoughts on this.




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Old 04-22-19, 12:57 PM
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Looks great! You have to look pretty darn close to see the seams. I'd leave it if it was mine.
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Old 04-22-19, 01:00 PM
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Nicely done!
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Old 04-22-19, 01:06 PM
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It looks great! The only person who will notice the seams on the decals is you. I would just leave them as is.
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Originally Posted by kevincgove View Post
Looks great! You have to look pretty darn close to see the seams. I'd leave it if it was mine.
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It looks great! The only person who will notice the seams on the decals is you. I would just leave them as is.
I am obsessive but hearing this helps, Thanks. Thoughts on sticking my name on it? I have not clear coated it yet so I am still pondering.

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Nicely done!

And yes, keep your name on it. It looks like it came with it and belongs there.
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Old 04-22-19, 02:24 PM
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I like it.

I have never tried to get paint mixed to a powdercoat number... but as I recently viewed a powdercoat job on the retrogrouch site that I like but would not use powdercoat on the project I have coming up, please advise where you went and paint brand.
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I like it.
please advise where you went and paint brand.
I went to NAPA. I wanted straight enamel but was told they cannot do that any more unless it was a touch-up paint. I had 8oz mixed lol. I am not sure the brand they use but I found that it had a lot of pigment so I was able to reduce it a fair ammount and it still covered well. As the fork turned out well with the powder coat I just sprayed the frame. He had no trouble getting the code for the RAL #.
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Old 04-22-19, 02:42 PM
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Looks good. Bob would be happy.
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Looks great. Another vote for not worrying about the seam. Very good work applying decals, too.
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Originally Posted by daviddavieboy View Post
I went to NAPA. I wanted straight enamel but was told they cannot do that any more unless it was a touch-up paint. I had 8oz mixed lol. I am not sure the brand they use but I found that it had a lot of pigment so I was able to reduce it a fair ammount and it still covered well. As the fork turned out well with the powder coat I just sprayed the frame. He had no trouble getting the code for the RAL #.
Thanks very much.
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Old 04-22-19, 05:32 PM
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Drat, should have known, not for sale in California -South Coast Air Quality Management districts.
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Old 04-22-19, 05:47 PM
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A very nice looking frame. Most desirable in my eyes. I wouldn't worry too much about the seams either.
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Old 04-22-19, 06:23 PM
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Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the very freaking good. That bike is sexy as hell and it would be a tragedy to mess it up trying to fix something that only your rear tire will ever see anyway.
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Beautiful as is - nicely done!
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Old 04-22-19, 06:43 PM
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Looks great. Amazing how the chrome survived so nicely while the paint went to hell. My Bob Jackson is jealous. What year is yours?

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Old 04-22-19, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Stevensb View Post
Looks great. Amazing how the chrome survived so nicely while the paint went to hell. My Bob Jackson is jealous. What year is yours?

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My Bob Jackson from 1974 had outstanding chrome. "socks' and head lugs" Paint was good, two tone. Jackson or Bob Jackson everywhere, but hey, it was a track bike.
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Originally Posted by repechage View Post
My Bob Jackson from 1974 had outstanding chrome. "socks' and head lugs" Paint was good, two tone. Jackson or Bob Jackson everywhere, but hey, it was a track bike.
My Jackson road bike from about the same time had "Jackson" or "Bob Jackson" everywhere, too, but it was a road frame. Ol' Bob was not bashful about having his name displayed.

To the OP: it looks great. Nicely done.
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Originally Posted by repechage View Post
Drat, should have known, not for sale in California -South Coast Air Quality Management districts.
That is why i had them mix "touch up paint". I bought two 4 oz containers and mixed the reducer, hardner, etc in when I got home. 25+ years ago I worked in a body shop and still have the tools. I called and the paint they use is Dupont and there is a mixing code as well but I don't know what thy correlate to.

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Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the very freaking good. That bike is sexy as hell and it would be a tragedy to mess it up trying to fix something that only your rear tire will ever see anyway.
I know what you mean, For me making the decals was an experiment and I messed one up on the top of the seat stay. I had to sand and respray the top of the stay which took 3 hours by the time it was done.

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Looks great. Amazing how the chrome survived so nicely while the paint went to hell. My Bob Jackson is jealous. What year is yours?
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The chrome is what was making the powdercoater nervous (because of the excellent condition) and he didn't want to damage it. They did make a couple marks when blasting it even though the compressor was down to 30-40 PSI (usually 110)
As far as the year that is a bit of a mystery. I sent multiple emails to Jackson in the UK enquiring and never received any response. One was even for services. The frame and fork both have 9492 as the ser # so it places the frame around 70' or 71' AFAIK. I am going with 70' cause' it is my age


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My Jackson road bike from about the same time had "Jackson" or "Bob Jackson" everywhere, too, but it was a road frame. Ol' Bob was not bashful about having his name displayed.
HAHA, My retired Cannondale. Cannondale printed 7 times and SuperSix 6 times.


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I associate the Bob Jackson along the top tube with frames I started seeing at a local bike shop with ‘72.
not to say they were not used earlier.
buying paint in Southern California or any solvents for that matter can be a real problem. Sometimes it just is not allowed, sometimes the local price is crazy. I purchase an sdhesive cleaner periodically, local, $36 per quart, 100 miles north $24.

the cleaner I would prefer to use, I would have to go to AZ, I do understand, but I use much more of the approved stuff to do the same job as the previous. Not a great equation.
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Originally Posted by Fahrenheit531 View Post
Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the very freaking good. That bike is sexy as hell and it would be a tragedy to mess it up trying to fix something that only your rear tire will ever see anyway.
Yeah, what he said.
You'll be very upset when the second (or third) try isn't as nice as the first.
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Drat, should have known, not for sale in California -South Coast Air Quality Management districts.
Those of us who grew up in Los Angeles smog understand the need to reduce volatile reactive hydrocarbon emissions.
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Old 04-23-19, 09:28 AM
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Those of us who grew up in Los Angeles smog understand the need to reduce volatile reactive hydrocarbon emissions.
Not going to argue heavily, I grew up across the street from the 405 frwy. Thank goodness for the ocean breeze, most of the time. I think there is for some products a point of diminishing return, If it takes 3-4x of a lower voc product to do the work of the generation before, is that overall less VOC's being introduced?
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Thanks @daviddavieboy. My Bob Jackson s/n is about 500 higher than yours. The NR derailleur that was on it is a Patent 71 so early 70's seems reasonable for yours.

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Those of us who grew up in Los Angeles smog understand the need to reduce volatile reactive hydrocarbon emissions.
I agree. I used to walk to school with my eyes burning from the smog and you could not see more than a mile or so because of the brown haze.

I hate to say it but think automobile and truck emission reductions have helped.

Having said that, small amounts from household use of solvents for cleaning is NOT the problem. They should allow small quantity purchases/use for households. Acetone is available, and safer, but it is too volatile and too soluble (dissolves too many common plastics) to be universally acceptable.
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