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Old 09-02-19 | 03:45 PM
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PDG Series 5 to Waterford PDG OS

Similar situation, I have a PDG Series 5 that was too small for me, and finally found a Waterford PDG OS in the right size. Did not want to wait to try out the new frame, so stripped the series 5 to build up the Waterford, all I needed was new cables, and tape. Waterford doesn’t ride any better then the Panasonic built Series 5, and finish and build quality better on the Panasonic frame, but the Waterford fits better, so wins out. Have decided to source some better components for the new frame, but for now the 105 components work just fine.
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Old 09-02-19 | 03:48 PM
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There you go. A pair of first-hand anecdotal suppliers.
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Old 09-02-19 | 04:11 PM
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And some of us actually prefer a unicrown fork. (One of us?)
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Old 09-03-19 | 11:35 PM
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Those are some really nice bikes above^^^^^^
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Old 09-04-19 | 09:37 PM
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Unicrown forks have never looked attractive to me because a semi-sloping or fully-sloping crown are just so pretty. That being said, I ride a Davidson Impulse, which possesses what looks very much like a fancied-up and smoothed-out unicrown-type fork and it looks good enough. Functions well. I have no issue with a frameset made in Japan as I've had a few of those, and anything halfway decent or better from a Japanese manufacturer, in the '80s, was solid if not fantastic stuff. We have a raft of Centurion Ironman fans and owners and those later-'80s bikes proudly sport their unicrown forks, and none of them care!

And at the end of the day, if it rides the way you like it to ride and you're ok with or even thrilled with the looks, then you have a gem and you can keep it. With a Series 7 PDG bike, the higher the number meant the higher the spec all around. If it has Prestige tubing, as [MENTION=108582]RobbieTunes[/MENTION] says, then that's fantastic. 6400 Shimano bits also connote the status of the bike. I'd love a 25"/63.5cm Waterford Paramount (the one I had powder coated is a 62cm, too small), but I definitely wouldn't say no to a 25"/63.5cm PDG Series 7. Especially with those splatter and slung paint jobs.
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Old 09-05-19 | 01:28 AM
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I don't know if this will help id but these decals are on it.

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Unicrown forks have never looked attractive to me because a semi-sloping or fully-sloping crown are just so pretty. That being said, I ride a Davidson Impulse, which possesses what looks very much like a fancied-up and smoothed-out unicrown-type fork and it looks good enough. Functions well. I have no issue with a frameset made in Japan as I've had a few of those, and anything halfway decent or better from a Japanese manufacturer, in the '80s, was solid if not fantastic stuff. We have a raft of Centurion Ironman fans and owners and those later-'80s bikes proudly sport their unicrown forks, and none of them care!

And at the end of the day, if it rides the way you like it to ride and you're ok with or even thrilled with the looks, then you have a gem and you can keep it. With a Series 7 PDG bike, the higher the number meant the higher the spec all around. If it has Prestige tubing, as [MENTION=108582]RobbieTunes[/MENTION] says, then that's fantastic. 6400 Shimano bits also connote the status of the bike. I'd love a 25"/63.5cm Waterford Paramount (the one I had powder coated is a 62cm, too small), but I definitely wouldn't say no to a 25"/63.5cm PDG Series 7. Especially with those splatter and slung paint jobs.


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Old 09-05-19 | 07:24 AM
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Same frame as the series 5, just different paint scheme and upgraded components.
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Old 09-06-19 | 04:10 AM
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I had inquired about a group set & wheels listed here in parts. But by the time I have them shipped I will have more in the parts than I can get for the PDG-7, plus I would still need stem's and bars..
Well as soon as I get a couple of tools I guess I will swap the parts. I will post pictures when I get it done.
Thanks again..
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I'm still interested in that 7...
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Old 09-06-19 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by redmanf1
I had inquired about a group set & wheels listed here in parts. But by the time I have them shipped I will have more in the parts than I can get for the PDG-7, plus I would still need stem's and bars..
Well as soon as I get a couple of tools I guess I will swap the parts. I will post pictures when I get it done.
Thanks again..
Yup, I’m in for over 700 bucks, sourcing Dura-Ace/ Campagnolo parts for mine, and not done yet. I think you’ll find it rides pretty nice with swapped over PDG 7 components, mine rides awful nice with the swapped over PDG 5’s lesser components. I’m thinking of leaving mine as is, kind of a rememberance of my series 5, with which I put a lot of fun miles on, can always resell the Dura-Ace/ Campy stuff. Just sell your old frame, which is what I did.
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Old 09-06-19 | 11:44 AM
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depends on budget and the look you are going for

if you have the $$

I would get a full group 105/ultegra from a UK bike shop then you have the best of both classic frame and modern shifting and breaking

other wise swap
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There is much/most/all of a 7700 group in the classifieds that looks great. Grab it and be done. (Bar end shifters are cool.)
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Old 09-06-19 | 10:46 PM
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I checked it out, the Flite Deck Shifters Brifters and Rear Derailleur are Ultegra 6500. That puts me at almost $400 and still no wheels plus mixed parts.

Thanks for the tip though. The Dura Ace 7700 parts are nice, I looked at them on the ---- sale site..




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There is much/most/all of a 7700 group in the classifieds that looks great. Grab it and be done. (Bar end shifters are cool.)
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