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Old 07-06-20 | 08:58 AM
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Miyata 710 rear alignment issue

I’ve been working on this 1982 Miyata 710. Just got a new to me set of cane creek wheels & some 33.3 soma supple vitesse tires. I put the rear wheel in the frame & it’s off center over the rear brake bridge. I’ve carefully centered it at the chain stays, but it doesn’t change the vertical misalignment. I put in another set of wheels that I know are dished correctly and the same issue appears. When I eyeball the rear wheel with the seatpost I can clearly see the top of the wheel is tilted to the right. Is this a drop out alignment issue, or an entire frame alignment issue? I took it for a ride anyway and man oh man is it sweet. Here’s some pictures to try and illustrate what I’m talking about.





Here’s a pic of the whole bike With the other set of wheels.
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Did you mount the wheel the other way, to confirm that it's the frame and not the wheel? Did you check that the rim is centered between the axle locknuts?
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Old 07-06-20 | 09:26 AM
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Did you mount the wheel the other way, to confirm that it's the frame and not the wheel? Did you check that the rim is centered between the axle locknuts?
I don’t have a dishing tool, so I just went out & reversed the wheel. It sits in the frame the exact same way.
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Check the frame alignment. It is easy to do and can be done with sting and a tape measure. I won't bother to explain how as there are a number of videos online detailing how to do this. As this is a steel bike straightening is very doable.

If the frame is straight then I would say you have an issue with the dropouts.

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Old 07-06-20 | 10:19 AM
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Check the frame alignment. It is easy to do and can be done with sting and a tape measure. I won't bother to explain haw as there are a number of videos online detailing how to do this. As this is a steel bike straightening is very doable.

If the frame is straight then I would say you have an issue with the dropouts.
Thanks. I’ve googled it and it seems fairly straightforward. I’ll report back with results when I find the time to do it.
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Wharf Rat , I had the exact same problem with my 1974 Raleigh frame. I discovered that the stays on one side were slightly longer than the other. I doubt this is the case with your Miyata because they are built better than the 1970's era Raleighs. Take a look at this thread to see how I handled the problem...

1974 Raleigh Grand Prix Rehab...Part 5...Frame Alignment
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Old 07-06-20 | 02:56 PM
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branko_76 , I checked out your thread, very cool. Also way beyond what I’m capable of. I did the string test and it was out of alignment slightly, maybe 2mm Different at the seat tube measurement. Im not going buy a set of dropout alignment tools for one frame, so I’ll cobble something together from the hardware store. RJ the bike guys got a video where he makes some.
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^^^^ I've had some success with RJ's "home version of the game".
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