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Old 12-29-20, 11:44 PM
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While I need to properly hang my scale and do it again, a quick handheld loft of my resto-mod Kona Fire Mountain came in at under 25 lbs.
These tires are light, and I've already taken them off, as they've been sitting in the basement for well over a decade and I don't wanna ride on the trail with 'em.
But... the wheels ain't light, Rhyno "lite". I've been toying with the idea of swapping out these with the handbuilt (Colorado Cyclist did 'em) wheels on my Montague, but not feeling much pressure to do that right now.
Not bad for old steel, especially a relatively 'low end' model.


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The conundrum of “versatile” bikes is that the lighter you go, the less versatile it is. Unless you go full Heine
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Originally Posted by Darth Lefty
The conundrum of “versatile” bikes is that the lighter you go, the less versatile it is. Unless you go full Heine
Well, like all things, it depends. My main road bike is a custom ti frame w/ a Ritchey Adventure fork. Fits 700x38mm tires easily and also actually 650bx50 as it has disc brakes. I’m mostly using it for day rides on mixed surfaces, but plan on using it for bikepacking next year. It weighs 19.5lbs in current configuration.
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I was all geared up to advise looking at a hybrid, I even spent two minutes taking a picture!



That’s a bike I built for Ms_Name, it’d be a great platform for a city commuter. I bought it from a friend who lived in Hartford several years ago and it was a hoot to rip around on then, even if way too small. Weighs 25.2# as pictured. 700x38 and room for fenders. Bars up high to keep the head on a swivel.

All of that’s to say, it looks like you’ve done well. Curious to see how it turns out.
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I was all geared up to advise looking at a hybrid, I even spent two minutes taking a picture!

That’s a bike I built for Ms_Name, it’d be a great platform for a city commuter. I bought it from a friend who lived in Hartford several years ago and it was a hoot to rip around on then, even if way too small. Weighs 25.2# as pictured. 700x38 and room for fenders. Bars up high to keep the head on a swivel.

All of that’s to say, it looks like you’ve done well. Curious to see how it turns out.
That’s a nice looking rig, Bob. Is it alu? I was thinking it would be cool to have my first full CF bike be a hybrid! Does it fit fenders (i.e., eyelets)?
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Originally Posted by nlerner
That’s a nice looking rig, Bob. Is it alu? I was thinking it would be cool to have my first full CF bike be a hybrid! Does it fit fenders (i.e., eyelets)?
Yep, aluminum frame and fork. Eyelets front and rear, threaded fender bosses at the chain and seat stay bridges. Easy enough at the fork crown. It’s a nice little bike. Zippy.

I still haven’t ridden a full CF bike...curious about your Ti, not sure I’ve seen it. Something like that’s on my short list for sure.

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Originally Posted by Sir_Name
Yep, aluminum frame and fork. Eyelets front and rear, threaded fender bosses at the chain and seat stay bridges. Easy enough at the fork crown. It’s a nice little bike. Zippy.

I still haven’t ridden a full CF bike...curious about your Ti, not sure I’ve seen it. Something like that’s on my short list for sure.
I had it built by Waltly in China, based on the specs of my Black Mountain Road but with provisions for wider tires, thru-axles, and disc brakes. Added the Ritchey fork and a Campy Potenza hydro group, Pacenti wheels, Compass tires (though I have another set of wheels for true gravel riding). A sublime ride.

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Originally Posted by nlerner
I had it built by Waltly in China, based on the specs of my Black Mountain Road but with provisions for wider tires, thru-axles, and disc brakes. Added the Ritchey fork and a Campy Potenza hydro group, Pacenti wheels, Compass tires (though I have another set of wheels for true gravel riding). A sublime ride.

What a great bike.

Checks most of the boxes for me, for sure.

I am consolidating bikes around here and had strongly considered one of these until I was offered a Moots Routt 45 at a stupid price.

I sold three bikes to own it, but I can't say that I miss any of them.

The ride quality on a well built ti frameset is worth it.
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Originally Posted by nlerner
I had it built by Waltly in China, based on the specs of my Black Mountain Road but with provisions for wider tires, thru-axles, and disc brakes. Added the Ritchey fork and a Campy Potenza hydro group, Pacenti wheels, Compass tires (though I have another set of wheels for true gravel riding). A sublime ride.
That looks great. I remember reading about Waltly on this or another forum. The next bike will be modern steel or ti with hydro discs and wide tires and gears. I’m really interested in trying well built ti if I can find it for a reasonable price.
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Originally Posted by gomango
What a great bike.

Checks most of the boxes for me, for sure.

I am consolidating bikes around here and had strongly considered one of these until I was offered a Moots Routt 45 at a stupid price.

I sold three bikes to own it, but I can't say that I miss any of them.

The ride quality on a well built ti frameset is worth it.
This is actually my third Ti bike. The first was a 90s Merlin road that was light, fast, and stable, but a bit on the small size for me and couldn’t fit wider than a 25mm tire. The next was a Carver, essentially a custom built for someone else. While the size was right, I never liked how it rode, far more sluggish than the Merlin though I could fit a 35mm tire. The Waltly takes my favorite frame geometry, tweaks it just a bit, and uses solid contemporary components. It was also essentially half the price (or less) of a US-based Ti builder.
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Well, the Trek 700 is done for now. I won’t need to commute for a few weeks though I have an appt downtown tomorrow, so I think I’ll take it to that. Tires are 37mm Vittoria Hyper Randos and fenders are a bit narrow for that tire size. Once we get another dose of snow and ice, I’ll install 35mm Schwalbe Marathon Winter studded tires. It came with steel bars and stem. I replaced the bars and ordered an alu stem (1 1/8” threaded). The current stem weighs nearly 1.5 lbs!




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How easy is it to take that bag off your faux lightweight MTB?
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How easy is it to take that bag off your faux lightweight MTB?
It’s the Carradice bag support with the quick release, so very easy!

https://www.carradice.co.uk/products...sport-original
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End product looks good nlerner !

I'd been looking and looking and looking for something suitable in the sub-$80 range based on the Google doc LesterOfPuppets posted earlier in the thread (thanks!) but COVID bike tax is an absolute killer right now, I was coming up fairly empty.

I ended up with something not quite "vintage", managed to snag this Marlin @ Goodwill. This is after a spraydown to get the bugs and basement funk off it, it was coated in dust, webs, spent egg sacks, etc. Dork disk still intact without cracks, haze or fading and hardly any brake track wear, so I'm assuming it was rarely ridden much, just how I like 'em.

I might need to turn in my C&V license at this rate. Last three bikes I've picked up all started with "20" in the year. Granted, one was for my kid, and the other was a curb pickup, but ...
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Love the ride no annoying suspension although I had a Gary Fisher with Kamikaze shocks and BMX rear brakes that was awesome. Looking forward to rebuilding the Goose. The 2000 Specialized Sirrus technically a hybrid before they became road/racers was a very capable machine.
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