Obsessing about Celeste, again
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Obsessing about Celeste, again
I know, I know. Bianchi Celeste is a range of colors. There is no match. I know that. But I'm planning to have a Bianchi powder coated and I want to pick a color I'll be happy with. Picking a color that I will look at and think, "Yes, that's Celeste" is pretty easy. There are a lot of choices. What I'm shooting for is picking one that I won't look at and think, "That's not exactly the shade I'm looking for."
Challenges:
1. There are many shades of Celeste that vary from year to year and bike to bike, even in the original
2. Pictures of colors on computer monitors introduces at least three more degrees of variability
3. Powder coating seems to allow some variation of color based on base material and depth of powder, maybe other factors
I'm just putting that out there so no one else has to say it. I know. I acknowledge. I accept the risks.
Now then, I've narrow it down to three candidates from Prismatic Powders and ordered swatches. Here's a picture, with a Hudz "Eroica Celeste" brake hood and a tube a Phil Waterproof Grease for reference.

On my monitor, that's a reasonably close approximation of what my eye is telling me. From left to right, that's "Sea Foam Green", "Pearled Turqoise", and "Tropical Breeze".
But wait, there's more! Here are some references cherry-picked from the Internet, because these uniformly don't look like the swatches.
Sea Foam Green

Pearled Turqoise

(The above are the same wheels.)
Tropical Breeze

Helpfully, Tropical Breeze (top) and Sea Foam Green together

I think what I want to end up with is this:

Or maybe this:

What do you think? Any suggestions?
Challenges:
1. There are many shades of Celeste that vary from year to year and bike to bike, even in the original
2. Pictures of colors on computer monitors introduces at least three more degrees of variability
3. Powder coating seems to allow some variation of color based on base material and depth of powder, maybe other factors
I'm just putting that out there so no one else has to say it. I know. I acknowledge. I accept the risks.
Now then, I've narrow it down to three candidates from Prismatic Powders and ordered swatches. Here's a picture, with a Hudz "Eroica Celeste" brake hood and a tube a Phil Waterproof Grease for reference.

On my monitor, that's a reasonably close approximation of what my eye is telling me. From left to right, that's "Sea Foam Green", "Pearled Turqoise", and "Tropical Breeze".
But wait, there's more! Here are some references cherry-picked from the Internet, because these uniformly don't look like the swatches.
Sea Foam Green
Pearled Turqoise

(The above are the same wheels.)
Tropical Breeze

Helpfully, Tropical Breeze (top) and Sea Foam Green together

I think what I want to end up with is this:

Or maybe this:

What do you think? Any suggestions?
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I kept switching between swatches one and two. I think something in between is closest to "true" celeste. If I had to pick, I'd pick 2, I think. FWIW, I don't think the hood or tube is true to celeste as seen on my Bianchi. For that matter, Jagwire celeste brake lines are noticeably darker and more turquoise than bianchi's originals.
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This is one of the reasons I'm obsessing about this. I can imagine myself wanting to match accessories: cables, bar tape, saddles, water bottles, bottle cages, jerseys, gloves, you name it. But they don't even match each other, so I think it's a losing proposition.
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my vote is the tropical breeze
as for accessories go white and then you are cool
as for accessories go white and then you are cool
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The powder coater I plan to use has me buy the powder and have it sent to them (for reasons that are at this moment all too obvious). So I don't think color match like that is an option.
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A friend of mine who has a thriving (20+ years) business as a graphic designer (print and web) said that the first thing she tells her clients upon delivery of samples is, "prepare to be disappointed," because the sample never looks exactly like the proofs. I think once you satisfy yourself that you've considered all of the important options, you'll be happy with whatever you choose.
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I purposely went low-key on my Bianchi as I didn't want to "over Celeste" the final result. YMMV.
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Yours is definitely setting the gold standard for how a Bianchi should look! The blue bar tape picks up the decal color. Maybe I could do something similar with the cables. Your gray cables look nice. I don't think either black or white would. I do think I can stick with a black saddle and bar tape. Classic bare metal bottle cages are a good choice. That would definitely ease some pressure on getting the right shade.
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Based on the rims and color swatch, tropical breeze looks the best/closest to what I think of for Celeste.
...at least thats the case on my phone's screen.
...at least thats the case on my phone's screen.
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to this:

and I can't shake the feeling that those are probably both the same color in person.
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That's another thing that Google shows me:

I don't know if that's original paint, but it's definitely not what I'm looking for. Prismatic Powders says the Pearled Turqoise is metallic, but it doesn't look that way in the swatch or any photo I've seen.

I don't know if that's original paint, but it's definitely not what I'm looking for. Prismatic Powders says the Pearled Turqoise is metallic, but it doesn't look that way in the swatch or any photo I've seen.
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The human eye can differentiate more shades of green than any other color, which I don't think helps you here.
If you're looking for the bike to look "right" you should look at examples from the era it was built. You already know that Bianchi celeste is a moving target.
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In between Pearled Turquoise and Tropical Breeze is what my eye test sees...closer to the pearled turq...
So Pearled Foam Breeze.
So Pearled Foam Breeze.
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I've had the swatches on my desk for about a week and a half. I think I need to start carrying them around to see them in different lighting. The fluorescent light in my home office is very different than the way I'd usually be seeing the bike. It also just occurred to me to bend the swatches.
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