64 Cinelli build
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Mine will eventually be Spence Wolf Alpine inspired build so I will need a very special spindle for a triple as mine is a 74mm.
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One thing I would like is a correct stem and bar. Anyone have something appropriate? Mid-60s Cinelli stem and bar?
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One thing is to make sure you have a correct BB spindle, I assume this is 70mm so can be a bit of a challenge, especially if you want to go with a triple. aside from that, what ever you want for however you're going to use it. 
Mine will eventually be Spence Wolf Alpine inspired build so I will need a very special spindle for a triple as mine is a 74mm.

Mine will eventually be Spence Wolf Alpine inspired build so I will need a very special spindle for a triple as mine is a 74mm.

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One thing is to make sure you have a correct BB spindle, I assume this is 70mm so can be a bit of a challenge, especially if you want to go with a triple. aside from that, what ever you want for however you're going to use it. 
Mine will eventually be Spence Wolf Alpine inspired build so I will need a very special spindle for a triple as mine is a 74mm.

Mine will eventually be Spence Wolf Alpine inspired build so I will need a very special spindle for a triple as mine is a 74mm.


I finally gave up and put in a Phil Wood using standard Italian threaded cups. Use blue loctite - not red - on the DS cup to keep it self-removing as you ride, as Italian DS cups are wont to do. Mine was for a double up front, but I am sure you can get a Phil spindle long enough to handle a triple and because of the way Phils are made, you have several millimeters of side-to-side adjustment available .
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Just another example of Cino Cinelli's design idiosyncrasies. If my experience is any indication, though, it will be a joy to ride.
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But it seems you know all this so do want you want. You could play a game. What would be the "typical" build out of Germany? The US? UK? Or mix and match. What really doesn't matter is another opinion.
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There are a lot of options. Titan stem with Maes-Kint bars. Ambrosio/3T stem/bars. GS is good if you want tier 2, Record as mentioned before was top of the line. Or you could go Simplex for that matter. Fiamme, Mavic, Weinmann, Ambrosio rims, whatever.
But it seems you know all this so do want you want. You could play a game. What would be the "typical" build out of Germany? The US? UK? Or mix and match. What really doesn't matter is another opinion.
But it seems you know all this so do want you want. You could play a game. What would be the "typical" build out of Germany? The US? UK? Or mix and match. What really doesn't matter is another opinion.
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Merziac: If you have a 74mm BB shell, Phil Wood is your friend. Campy BBs for 74mm used 3/16 " bearings. Those aren't hard to find. The cups are a different story. Finding a thin-walled Italian-threaded cup for 3/16" bearings is amazingly not easy. All of this was learned the hard way. Profit from my angst. 
I finally gave up and put in a Phil Wood using standard Italian threaded cups. Use blue loctite - not red - on the DS cup to keep it self-removing as you ride, as Italian DS cups are wont to do. Mine was for a double up front, but I am sure you can get a Phil spindle long enough to handle a triple and because of the way Phils are made, you have several millimeters of side-to-side adjustment available .

I finally gave up and put in a Phil Wood using standard Italian threaded cups. Use blue loctite - not red - on the DS cup to keep it self-removing as you ride, as Italian DS cups are wont to do. Mine was for a double up front, but I am sure you can get a Phil spindle long enough to handle a triple and because of the way Phils are made, you have several millimeters of side-to-side adjustment available .
Phil will be the way to go for the triple.

Should have stepped up for a Merz binder bolt when he made them.







