1987 Albert Eisentraut
09-28-21 | 11:20 PM
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Is it outside the realm of possibility that Albert, being a pioneering master frame builder, might have crafted this unique frame as a one of a kind custom design? Or perhaps as a very low production number, and consequently very obscure model line?
09-29-21 | 01:21 AM
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From where I'm sitting, the binder bolt and rear crown/fork are very, very similar to the very unique one of a kind Strawberry design.
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09-29-21 | 11:49 AM
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[MENTION=540987]konakai[/MENTION]
Excellent!
Tx, I stand corrected, my bad, that "E" leaves no doubt, I would have led with that.
And like I said, a visual often solves a lot of this as it did here.
Still can't imagine there isn't a Strawberry connection for the crown and the binder one way or the other, what do I know.
Excellent!Tx, I stand corrected, my bad, that "E" leaves no doubt, I would have led with that.
And like I said, a visual often solves a lot of this as it did here.
Still can't imagine there isn't a Strawberry connection for the crown and the binder one way or the other, what do I know.
09-29-21 | 12:12 PM
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[MENTION=540987]konakai[/MENTION]
Excellent!
Tx, I stand corrected, my bad, that "E" leaves no doubt, I would have led with that.
And like I said, a visual often solves a lot of this as it did here.
Still can't imagine there isn't a Strawberry connection for the crown and the binder one way or the other, what do I know.
Excellent!Tx, I stand corrected, my bad, that "E" leaves no doubt, I would have led with that.
And like I said, a visual often solves a lot of this as it did here.
Still can't imagine there isn't a Strawberry connection for the crown and the binder one way or the other, what do I know.
09-29-21 | 12:15 PM
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Bikes: Merz x 5 + Specialized Merz Allez x 2, Strawberry/Newlands/DiNucci/Ti x3, Gordon, Fuso/Moulton x2, Bornstein, Paisley,1958-74 Paramounts x3, 3rensho, 74 Moto TC, 73-78 Raleigh Pro's x5, Marinoni x2, 1960 Cinelli SC, 1980 Bianchi SC, PX-10 X 2
as far as leading with that, I wasn't in doubt or trying to prove the bike was an eisentraut , just jazzed getting it and wanted to show it.. it was a one owner built for him. as for the strawberry connection you could be on to something. who knows what eccentric builders did in the moment. it could be a one off. if you find any correlation to strawberry let me know. I love a good bike mystery
Absolutely, very glad you did, me too and will do.Tx again.
09-29-21 | 12:19 PM
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Bikes: 1967 Paramount; 1982-ish Ron Cooper; 1978 Eisentraut "A"; two mid-1960s Cinelli Speciale Corsas; and others in various stages of non-rideability.
Yup, that "E" in the BB shell is an Eisentraut trademark. Also, you can just see the FD cable coming off of the cable guide that is part of the shell itself, another Eisentraut give-away.
I suppose it is conceivable that it's a Strawberry built using an Eisentraut shell, but I am unware of Albert ever making these shells available to anyone else. Someone else likely will have more info on that.
Either way, that is a top-drawer bike there.
I suppose it is conceivable that it's a Strawberry built using an Eisentraut shell, but I am unware of Albert ever making these shells available to anyone else. Someone else likely will have more info on that.
Either way, that is a top-drawer bike there.
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09-29-21 | 01:10 PM
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Bikes: Merz x 5 + Specialized Merz Allez x 2, Strawberry/Newlands/DiNucci/Ti x3, Gordon, Fuso/Moulton x2, Bornstein, Paisley,1958-74 Paramounts x3, 3rensho, 74 Moto TC, 73-78 Raleigh Pro's x5, Marinoni x2, 1960 Cinelli SC, 1980 Bianchi SC, PX-10 X 2
Yup, that "E:" in the BB shell is an Eisentraut trademark. Also, you can just see the FD cable coming off of the cable guide that is part of the shell itself, another Eisentraut give-away.
I suppose it is conceivable that it's a Strawberry built using an Eisentraut shell, but I am unware of Albert ever making these shells available to anyone else. Someone else likely will have more info on that.
Either way, that is a top-drawer bike there.
I suppose it is conceivable that it's a Strawberry built using an Eisentraut shell, but I am unware of Albert ever making these shells available to anyone else. Someone else likely will have more info on that.
Either way, that is a top-drawer bike there.
Fully agree, seems more likely it was built by Traut with Andy's crown and binder, can't imagine Andy using that BB shell, again what do I know. 
09-29-21 | 07:12 PM
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Agreed on the seller part but the binder is a pretty big outlier. I've done a pretty deep basic dive and cannot find any Eisentraut with this wishbone crown or binder. And while I am no Traut expert either, I do know quite a bit about Strawberry's, yours is a dead ringer for my black one in both regards.
I will reach out to Andy and see what he says but would really like a pic of the s/n to use too.
I will reach out to Andy and see what he says but would really like a pic of the s/n to use too.
09-30-21 | 12:16 AM
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