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Old 07-03-22, 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by gugie View Post
Great turnout, thanks to all that came!
@Andy_K, @ollo_ollo, @aggiegrads, @droppedandlost (all the way from Seattle), @merziac, @SquireBlack, @VRJAKE, @RustyJames (met us in Vernonia for lunch with his son), @Insidious C., @79pmooney, a friend of @SquireBlack that I've alredy forgotten name of, and of course our guest from Peoria, IL @52telecaster and his better half, @snow_venture52

Most rode the entirety of the 42 mile out and back course. 12 riders, excellent turnout. Mid-60's, topping out around 70 and overcast, perfect riding weather, great group of people.

Meeting BF members from other parts of the country is always a pleasure.
Absolutely, good times, Tx for nailing this down Mark.
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Somewhat random pics from the ride.

The guest of honor.


His ride and Squire Black's.


Mark's recent acquisition, a Singer and Steve's Page Street.


Andy's Coppi


VRJAKE's Gordon, on its maiden voyage.


Ben's Mooney



And an Ahearne that showed up while we were there, you don't see these everyday.


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So cool that you made this happen!

That stem and bar combo on the Peter Mooney makes my back hurt just looking at it. Why.
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It was a great day, and I enjoyed getting to see all of you, even if I mostly saw you riding away on the uphills.
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Originally Posted by billytwosheds View Post
So cool that you made this happen!

That stem and bar combo on the Peter Mooney makes my back hurt just looking at it. Why.
Ben, fixed gear, one speed, GO!
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Whoa, whoa!! What is the Singer all about? Was there an announcement I missed?

Glad you all had fun and good weather.
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Originally Posted by Spaghetti Legs View Post
Whoa, whoa!! What is the Singer all about? Was there an announcement I missed?

Glad you all had fun and good weather.
Did @gugie trade his soul to @northbend?!
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Old 07-04-22, 07:19 AM
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gugie Thanks for putting this together. Sorry I didnt tag along for the ride but it was great to meet a few people and next time Ill do a better self introduction. I tried to get a picture but the class clown photo-bombed it.


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Originally Posted by nlerner View Post
Did @gugie trade his soul to @northbend?!
Im pretty sure MFP could have his soul for free whenever he wanted.
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It was ideal weather for a ride. Enjoyed being among bicycle enthusiasts and seeing their classic machines. Chatting with 52 Telecaster. Matching faces to BF handles. Riding with the group. Special thanks to Gugie for organizing this, leading us out, herding us along. Cannot thank @aggiegrads (Steve) enough for the starting push to get me going up a grade. He was there when I fell, Tended and encouraged me on the final stretch back. Felt like his dad and appreciated the kindness. Was sore last night, expected much worse today but happily I'm much improved. See some of you again at CINO. Don
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Originally Posted by Spaghetti Legs View Post
Whoa, whoa!! What is the Singer all about? Was there an announcement I missed?
Looks like you just announced it, Hugh..
I dropped it off on the way back from our ride on McKenzie Pass a while ago. No souls were exchanged, nlerner ...
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Originally Posted by Spaghetti Legs View Post
Whoa, whoa!! What is the Singer all about? Was there an announcement I missed?
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Did @gugie trade his soul to @northbend?!
A few years ago, seeing Matt's Alex Singer (in my size!) I told him if he ever thought of selling it to let me know. At last year's Cino Matt loaned it to @Soup_Please as inducement to fly up from Tucson for the event. Scott loved the way it rode and started coming up with a story to tell me it rode like gaspipe, handled like crap, and the vintage French components were spewing ball bearings all over the course in order to convince me to relinquish my place in line. For some reason he couldn't keep a straight face when he told me this cockamamie story at the end of the day 1 ride. Perhaps it was the Spirit of Cino that tripped him up?
Fast forward to a few weeks ago. I received an email from @northbend a few weeks ago titled "It's time to let it go."
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You have 1st dibs if you want to buy this. Had a good 10 years with it and I’m ready to sell.
then some discussion of a fair value and/or trade...
Included with the bike, is this really nice stand that Alex Moll made for me as a thank you for ferrying his bike down to Eroica California in 2016.



The bike is complete as configured when Scott rode it at Cino. Pedals and saddlebag included as well as grab bag a spare parts: a set of MAFAC competition calipers and levers (undrilled) with black hoods, 4 new kool stop 4 dot pads, and a set of NOS gum hoods. I also will throw in a spare set of Berthet Pedals if you want them. English threaded. Separately Matt had a 2nd set of wheels for it with Dugasti tubs, which went into the deal in trade for other considerations.


I bought the frame sight unseen from a well known collector Douglas Brooks aka DBRK on the Velocipede Salon back in 2012. He was clearing out a bunch of bikes at the time that no longer fit because of a recent injury. Douglas told me he bought it from the original owners’ family in Toronto. When I talked Jan Heine about it, he thought was dated to 1974, part of a multiple order of frames placed by Bloor Cycles due to it’s serial number. That’s all I know about it’s prior history.
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I made one change to it. Matt had a modern bell on the stem, I swapped it out for one of my Frenchies.



I've tried a vintage Ideale saddle on another bike, it was "ok", but this one really fits my nether regions well.



I'm 25-35 pounds away from being able to ride this as-is at something like Cino or Eroica, I need a granny gear to climb those hills nowadays. It is a smooth ride, really neutral steering, easy to stand and pump up short inclines. The chrome lugs, creamy paint job and box lining are just fantastic to see in person.

I told Matt I felt more like a caretaker than an owner. Scott, when the time comes, you're on deck.

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It was a great day, and I enjoyed getting to see all of you, even if I mostly saw you riding away on the uphills.
Great meeting you Andy and you were riding just fine. By the end of the day you were pulling away from me pretty well.
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Originally Posted by billytwosheds View Post
So cool that you made this happen!

That stem and bar combo on the Peter Mooney makes my back hurt just looking at it. Why.
It's pilot had no issues riding it!
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Originally Posted by nlerner View Post
Did @gugie trade his soul to @northbend?!
RIP MP (NorthBend)???
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Right on, looks like gugie is being punished for all his misdeeds. 😁😉

Glad you kids all enjoyed yourselves. 👍
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Originally Posted by billytwosheds View Post
So cool that you made this happen!

That stem and bar combo on the Peter Mooney makes my back hurt just looking at it. Why.
If you saw my arm length, you'd get a clue. I learned many years ago that "normal" reaches mean I cannot properly relax/stretch my torso and I cramp. I'm long, skinny and light. Not young. All a very poor combo for going upwind. Getting aero and being able to stay there comfortably for long hours is a real blessing. I raced long ago and got that drilled through my brain. When I passed storefront windows, I always looked to check that my back was horizontal. And guess what? Those facts never changed. Upwind is still a challenge and aero is still the only relief. And I never stopped riding so I never stopped riding the aero positions. Now I just set my bikes up to do that and have zero shame about it looking unusual. Also in recent years I'm learning I have to have my hands rotated little fingers down and back, thumbs forward or rides hurt and the pain lasts after. Another piece is that I am from the old-shool where on the brake hoods was not where you wanted to be when the going got rough. (Pavements, iffy riders around you, possible emergency stops, etc.) We were to set our bikes up to be all day comfortable in the drops. Those hoods are for climbing out of the saddle or like TT bars upwind alone on good roads.

Today - my only issues are my legs saying I did something - I rode the 30 miles to and from the ride also) (Well, my whole body feels like it did something but that's life after all day on a fix gear.)

You can ask the guys I was riding with yesterday if I looked uncomfortable.
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If you saw my arm length, you'd get a clue. I learned many years ago that "normal" reaches mean I cannot properly relax/stretch my torso and I cramp. I'm long, skinny and light. Not young. All a very poor combo for going upwind. Getting aero and being able to stay there comfortably for long hours is a real blessing. I raced long ago and got that drilled through my brain. When I passed storefront windows, I always looked to check that my back was horizontal. And guess what? Those facts never changed. Upwind is still a challenge and aero is still the only relief. And I never stopped riding so I never stopped riding the aero positions. Now I just set my bikes up to do that and have zero shame about it looking unusual. Also in recent years I'm learning I have to have my hands rotated little fingers down and back, thumbs forward or rides hurt and the pain lasts after. Another piece is that I am from the old-shool where on the brake hoods was not where you wanted to be when the going got rough. (Pavements, iffy riders around you, possible emergency stops, etc.) We were to set our bikes up to be all day comfortable in the drops. Those hoods are for climbing out of the saddle or like TT bars upwind alone on good roads.

Today - my only issues are my legs saying I did something - I rode the 30 miles to and from the ride also) (Well, my whole body feels like it did something but that's life after all day on a fix gear.)

You can ask the guys I was riding with yesterday if I looked uncomfortable.
Ben is an ectomorph, and he's ridden more miles than 99% of the C&V crowd could realistically claim. He's all arms and legs.

If I saw a newbie set up like that I'd question it,, as it's clearly outside of the norm. Somebody like Ben who has spent decades tweeking his riding position, you just nod your head and know he's got it right for him.
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Ben is an ectomorph, and he's ridden more miles than 99% of the C&V crowd could realistically claim. He's all arms and legs.

If I saw a newbie set up like that I'd question it,, as it's clearly outside of the norm. Somebody like Ben who has spent decades tweeking his riding position, you just nod your head and know he's got it right for him.
Totally. I do see lots of beginners set their bars and levers that far forward and they have real problems. But I can see how it could work with the right body type and if you put the pedals down like 79pmooney . My apologies if I've offended!
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Originally Posted by billytwosheds View Post
Totally. I do see lots of beginners set their bars and levers that far forward and they have real problems. But I can see how it could work with the right body type and if you put the pedals down like 79pmooney . My apologies if I've offended!
No worries! No offense taken.
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