$1,000 derailleur system with 1930's technology
#201
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 16,385
Mentioned: 441 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3372 Post(s)
Liked 5,074 Times
in
2,104 Posts
Well, here's an even more expensive shifting system--and one that's much more interesting to me:
https://www.cyclingweekly.com/review...st-ride-review
https://www.cyclingweekly.com/review...st-ride-review
#202
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 1,086
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 759 Post(s)
Liked 866 Times
in
426 Posts
Well, here's an even more expensive shifting system--and one that's much more interesting to me:
https://www.cyclingweekly.com/review...st-ride-review
https://www.cyclingweekly.com/review...st-ride-review
#203
Full Member
Well, here's an even more expensive shifting system--and one that's much more interesting to me:
https://www.cyclingweekly.com/review...st-ride-review
https://www.cyclingweekly.com/review...st-ride-review
#205
Disco Infiltrator
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Folsom CA
Posts: 13,504
Bikes: Stormchaser, Paramount, Timberjack, Expert TG, Samba tandem
Mentioned: 69 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3009 Post(s)
Liked 1,937 Times
in
1,260 Posts
Well if you can afford a $1000 derailleur for your $10,000 bike, then you probably summon one of your servants who has been carrying your backup $10,000 touring bike on his back while riding his India-made clone of a Raleigh 3-speed
__________________
Genesis 49:16-17
Genesis 49:16-17
Likes For Darth Lefty:
#206
Bike Butcher of Portland
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 11,057
Bikes: It's complicated.
Mentioned: 1229 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4336 Post(s)
Liked 4,430 Times
in
1,881 Posts
I'd just hire Cliff. He'd ride right behind you with a Burley trailer and a quiver of spare bikes. And he could probably do it on one of those Indian Raleigh clones.
__________________
If someone tells you that you have enough bicycles and you don't need any more, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.
If someone tells you that you have enough bicycles and you don't need any more, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.
Likes For gugie:
#207
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Beaverton, OR
Posts: 14,294
Bikes: Yes
Mentioned: 491 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2928 Post(s)
Liked 2,843 Times
in
1,143 Posts
Well, here's an even more expensive shifting system--and one that's much more interesting to me:
https://www.cyclingweekly.com/review...st-ride-review
https://www.cyclingweekly.com/review...st-ride-review
__________________
My Bikes
My Bikes
Likes For Andy_K:
#208
ambulatory senior
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Peoria Il
Posts: 5,482
Bikes: Bob Jackson World Tour, Falcon and lots of other bikes.
Mentioned: 68 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1693 Post(s)
Liked 2,490 Times
in
1,198 Posts
#209
BIKE RIDE
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Michigan
Posts: 1,528
Bikes: my very own customized GUNNAR CrossHairs
Mentioned: 18 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 415 Post(s)
Liked 224 Times
in
148 Posts
Well, here's an even more expensive shifting system--and one that's much more interesting to me:
https://www.cyclingweekly.com/review...st-ride-review
https://www.cyclingweekly.com/review...st-ride-review
I will have to read about the Classified hub in detail. Look pretty slim.

Likes For mrv:
#210
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Maryland, USA
Posts: 2,031
Bikes: Drysdale/Gitane/Zeus/Masi/Falcon/Palo Alto/Raleigh
Mentioned: 31 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 774 Post(s)
Liked 390 Times
in
272 Posts
Well, here's an even more expensive shifting system--and one that's much more interesting to me:
https://www.cyclingweekly.com/review...st-ride-review
https://www.cyclingweekly.com/review...st-ride-review
__________________
Larry:1958 Drysdale, 1961 Gitane Gran Sport, 1974 Zeus track, 1988 Masi Gran Corsa, 1974 Falcon, 1980 Palo Alto, 197x Raleigh Gran Sport. Susan: 1976 Windsor Profesional.
Larry:1958 Drysdale, 1961 Gitane Gran Sport, 1974 Zeus track, 1988 Masi Gran Corsa, 1974 Falcon, 1980 Palo Alto, 197x Raleigh Gran Sport. Susan: 1976 Windsor Profesional.
#211
ambulatory senior
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Peoria Il
Posts: 5,482
Bikes: Bob Jackson World Tour, Falcon and lots of other bikes.
Mentioned: 68 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1693 Post(s)
Liked 2,490 Times
in
1,198 Posts
I have multiple bikes with the fabulous sturmey archer aw. A full three speeds. The cable and switch is indexed. It's the latest thing.
Likes For 52telecaster:
Likes For tcs:
#213
www.theheadbadge.com
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Southern Florida
Posts: 27,905
Bikes: https://www.theheadbadge.com
Mentioned: 105 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2093 Post(s)
Liked 3,316 Times
in
1,683 Posts
Likes For cudak888:
#215
Full Member
Surprised we don't see more of this, especially since the patents are long expired. I figure folks would make boutique, special runs of this stuff.
I'm really interested in seeing who picks up on brifters as those patents are expiring soon. Could make entire SRAM groupsets soon...
I'm really interested in seeing who picks up on brifters as those patents are expiring soon. Could make entire SRAM groupsets soon...
#216
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Peoria, IL
Posts: 3,859
Mentioned: 77 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1520 Post(s)
Liked 2,446 Times
in
1,191 Posts
Surprised we don't see more of this, especially since the patents are long expired. I figure folks would make boutique, special runs of this stuff.
I'm really interested in seeing who picks up on brifters as those patents are expiring soon. Could make entire SRAM groupsets soon...
I'm really interested in seeing who picks up on brifters as those patents are expiring soon. Could make entire SRAM groupsets soon...
Steve in Peoria
#217
ambulatory senior
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Peoria Il
Posts: 5,482
Bikes: Bob Jackson World Tour, Falcon and lots of other bikes.
Mentioned: 68 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1693 Post(s)
Liked 2,490 Times
in
1,198 Posts
And this just came into my son's shop .......

Likes For 52telecaster:
#218
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Long Island, NY
Posts: 1,823
Bikes: Trek 800 x 2, Schwinn Heavy Duti, Schwinn Traveler, Schwinn Le Tour Luxe, Schwinn Continental, Cannondale M400 and Lambert, Schwinn Super Sport
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 676 Post(s)
Liked 739 Times
in
516 Posts
Such a teaser! Is that a SunTour derailleur. I'm not familiar with it. I know they made a style of derailleur that attached to the chainstay, but not this one. 2 cogs on the freewheel or is there another behind the dropout? All steel on a lower end bike. Interesting.
It is like their HoleShot BMX derailleur. But different.
Where is your son's shop?
It is like their HoleShot BMX derailleur. But different.
Where is your son's shop?
Likes For Velo Mule:
#219
ambulatory senior
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Peoria Il
Posts: 5,482
Bikes: Bob Jackson World Tour, Falcon and lots of other bikes.
Mentioned: 68 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1693 Post(s)
Liked 2,490 Times
in
1,198 Posts
Such a teaser! Is that a SunTour derailleur. I'm not familiar with it. I know they made a style of derailleur that attached to the chainstay, but not this one. 2 cogs on the freewheel or is there another behind the dropout? All steel on a lower end bike. Interesting.
It is like their HoleShot BMX derailleur. But different.
Where is your son's shop?
It is like their HoleShot BMX derailleur. But different.
Where is your son's shop?
Likes For 52telecaster:
#220
Junior Member
Join Date: Jan 2023
Posts: 110
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 44 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 80 Times
in
47 Posts
Jan's derailleurs now priced $729.
Free press release but among all, I rather like the analogy. Porsche still offering a manual shift in the name of many still wanting the full and more involved experience.
https://www.renehersecycles.com/pres...ex-derailleur/
Free press release but among all, I rather like the analogy. Porsche still offering a manual shift in the name of many still wanting the full and more involved experience.
https://www.renehersecycles.com/pres...ex-derailleur/
Likes For chain_whipped:
#221
Bike Butcher of Portland
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 11,057
Bikes: It's complicated.
Mentioned: 1229 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4336 Post(s)
Liked 4,430 Times
in
1,881 Posts
Jan's derailleurs now priced $729.
Free press release but among all, I rather like the analogy. Porsche still offering a manual shift in the name of many still wanting the full and more involved experience.
https://www.renehersecycles.com/pres...ex-derailleur/
Free press release but among all, I rather like the analogy. Porsche still offering a manual shift in the name of many still wanting the full and more involved experience.
https://www.renehersecycles.com/pres...ex-derailleur/
And just to be clear, I doubt if Jan is making any money on these, especially if you take into account R&D expense and the extreme low volume this is being produced at. Then you have to commit to either making a custom frame or modifying a current one. It's an audacious move, and for those that feel like complaining about it, don't buy it.
__________________
If someone tells you that you have enough bicycles and you don't need any more, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.
If someone tells you that you have enough bicycles and you don't need any more, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.
Last edited by gugie; 01-10-23 at 07:18 PM.
Likes For gugie:
#222
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 16,385
Mentioned: 441 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3372 Post(s)
Liked 5,074 Times
in
2,104 Posts
Yeah, but you'll still need $250 shift leveres to make it work, so you're still into it for about a grand.
And just to be clear, I doubt if Jan is making any money on these, especially if you take into account R&D expense and the extreme low volume this is being produced at. Then you have to commit to either making a custom frame or modifying a current one. It's an audacious move, and for those that feel like complaining about it, don't buy it.
And just to be clear, I doubt if Jan is making any money on these, especially if you take into account R&D expense and the extreme low volume this is being produced at. Then you have to commit to either making a custom frame or modifying a current one. It's an audacious move, and for those that feel like complaining about it, don't buy it.
Likes For nlerner:
#223
SE Wis
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Milwaukee, WI
Posts: 9,716
Bikes: '68 Raleigh Sprite, '02 Raleigh C500, '84 Raleigh Gran Prix, '91 Trek 400, 2013 Novara Randonee, 1990 Trek 970
Mentioned: 37 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2403 Post(s)
Liked 2,733 Times
in
1,664 Posts
Pretty cool - until the price. Reminds me of an automotive product, the Columbia Two Speed rear end
https://generaltruckparts.com/drivetrain-product/dana/
#224
Bike Butcher of Portland
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 11,057
Bikes: It's complicated.
Mentioned: 1229 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4336 Post(s)
Liked 4,430 Times
in
1,881 Posts
Maybe, but now I'm complaining about you complaining 'bout my complaining.
__________________
If someone tells you that you have enough bicycles and you don't need any more, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.
If someone tells you that you have enough bicycles and you don't need any more, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.
Likes For gugie:
#225
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 16,385
Mentioned: 441 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3372 Post(s)
Liked 5,074 Times
in
2,104 Posts
Likes For nlerner: