Paramount Question(s)
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Paramount Question(s)
Picked this Paramount up a little while back. It's and '86 in Fireball Red. I only have this one pic because I've already dropped it off to get one of the cable guides repaired and to have it repainted. I have narrowed my choices of paint down to two options, either duplicate the Fireball Red with PPG paints, or go for the "Solo Yellow" from 1986. I'm curious if anyone has already gone this route and knows what a modern equivalent would be to the yellow. At some point in the next couple of days I'll run over to the paint store and look at their paint books, but if someone had some ideas/suggestions that would be great.
Also, if anyone has some insight to the s/n format (on the bottom of the BB) I'd like to know exactly what the guys at Waterford meant, here's my s/n: 5800 WA 86008.
My guess is 5800 = 580.0 mm
WA = Waterford
86= 1986
008 = ??
Thanks!
Steve
Also, if anyone has some insight to the s/n format (on the bottom of the BB) I'd like to know exactly what the guys at Waterford meant, here's my s/n: 5800 WA 86008.
My guess is 5800 = 580.0 mm
WA = Waterford
86= 1986
008 = ??
Thanks!
Steve
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thanks! I appreciate that , though I did run across this link on the Waterford website, which for others they should take note (and corroborates exactly what you said)
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Mostly looking for a basic yellow that’s either metallic or pearlescent, so tomorrow it’s supposed to be clear and sunny here in Dallas so I’ll go look at paint chips at the PPG store. I’ve kinda narrowed down to a yellow that GM used on Corvettes but I’ll have to see them in the sunlight. So yes, I’m open to other shades because I have only seen Solo Yellow in the old Schwinn brochures.
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Ha, like every used bike I’ve gotten I think (I know ) I over paid! I got it earlier this month (Oct).
Mostly looking for a basic yellow that’s either metallic or pearlescent, so tomorrow it’s supposed to be clear and sunny here in Dallas so I’ll go look at paint chips at the PPG store. I’ve kinda narrowed down to a yellow that GM used on Corvettes but I’ll have to see them in the sunlight. So yes, I’m open to other shades because I have only seen Solo Yellow in the old Schwinn brochures.
Mostly looking for a basic yellow that’s either metallic or pearlescent, so tomorrow it’s supposed to be clear and sunny here in Dallas so I’ll go look at paint chips at the PPG store. I’ve kinda narrowed down to a yellow that GM used on Corvettes but I’ll have to see them in the sunlight. So yes, I’m open to other shades because I have only seen Solo Yellow in the old Schwinn brochures.
It will be easier for me to spot you riding a yellow paramount.
I have a 71 that I love.
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Ha, like every used bike I’ve gotten I think (I know ) I over paid! I got it earlier this month (Oct).
Mostly looking for a basic yellow that’s either metallic or pearlescent, so tomorrow it’s supposed to be clear and sunny here in Dallas so I’ll go look at paint chips at the PPG store. I’ve kinda narrowed down to a yellow that GM used on Corvettes but I’ll have to see them in the sunlight. So yes, I’m open to other shades because I have only seen Solo Yellow in the old Schwinn brochures.
Mostly looking for a basic yellow that’s either metallic or pearlescent, so tomorrow it’s supposed to be clear and sunny here in Dallas so I’ll go look at paint chips at the PPG store. I’ve kinda narrowed down to a yellow that GM used on Corvettes but I’ll have to see them in the sunlight. So yes, I’m open to other shades because I have only seen Solo Yellow in the old Schwinn brochures.


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your yellow looks waaay better than the yellow in the brochure and seeing your pics really helps visualize how mine will look. Thanks!
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Thanks to everyone who commented on my comment about "over paying". You are all correct, and your sentiments are similar to mine. In my case, this bike was a consignment at the LBS and they were unwilling to discount as it had already been discounted. I'm not sure how long they had it, but I had been watching it for a number of months, I suspect the deal breaker for most shopper were the 13-21 Freewheel and the broken cable guide. Anyway FWIW, the LBS charges the seller 30% fee for selling.
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Thanks to everyone who commented on my comment about "over paying". You are all correct, and your sentiments are similar to mine. In my case, this bike was a consignment at the LBS and they were unwilling to discount as it had already been discounted. I'm not sure how long they had it, but I had been watching it for a number of months, I suspect the deal breaker for most shopper were the 13-21 Freewheel and the broken cable guide. Anyway FWIW, the LBS charges the seller 30% fee for selling.
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Ha, like every used bike I’ve gotten I think (I know ) I over paid! I got it earlier this month (Oct).
Mostly looking for a basic yellow that’s either metallic or pearlescent, so tomorrow it’s supposed to be clear and sunny here in Dallas so I’ll go look at paint chips at the PPG store. I’ve kinda narrowed down to a yellow that GM used on Corvettes but I’ll have to see them in the sunlight. So yes, I’m open to other shades because I have only seen Solo Yellow in the old Schwinn brochures.
Mostly looking for a basic yellow that’s either metallic or pearlescent, so tomorrow it’s supposed to be clear and sunny here in Dallas so I’ll go look at paint chips at the PPG store. I’ve kinda narrowed down to a yellow that GM used on Corvettes but I’ll have to see them in the sunlight. So yes, I’m open to other shades because I have only seen Solo Yellow in the old Schwinn brochures.

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Thanks to everyone who commented on my comment about "over paying". You are all correct, and your sentiments are similar to mine. In my case, this bike was a consignment at the LBS and they were unwilling to discount as it had already been discounted. I'm not sure how long they had it, but I had been watching it for a number of months, I suspect the deal breaker for most shopper were the 13-21 Freewheel and the broken cable guide. Anyway FWIW, the LBS charges the seller 30% fee for selling.






