Peruano

Are we not talking about a frame discussed in a different thread that had maybe irreparable, maybe trivial malalignment of brake mounts. It is fixed in your eyes but tainted goods for some. The frame looks good to me but then I have one so am not in the market. I wouldvexpect that the buyer would want to do their own build or if not look for a bike that appears to be complete to start with. Just saying . . .

Catnap 

some "inspo" on how these frames can be built up - a 650B conversion I did years ago. these frames are fully chromed under the paint and look great naked. Other than the fancy rear rack, it's all pretty common stuff. Suntour Cyclone front and rear, Shimano "Z" shifters on the stem (oh my!).

Robvolz 

that graphic is fun.
I’m such a Luddite, instead of a “thumbs up” emoji, I take a pic of my hand, thumbs up.

Meanwhile, the chrome underneath looks fun to me. But the next owner can take the time/love to remove it.

I volunteer one day a week to pull shtuff out of the bin/landfill and see if it could be used by others….

whether it be

• a migrant worker who wants the ability to ride to/from work
• a youngster who lives so far out, they ride to their school.
• the person who works a shift not serviced by public transportation when they get off work.

I know literally nothing about SR or Suntour. Until today, never heard of Sunshine hubs.

But today, I opened many boxes and bins to try to find period pieces that might have been found on this era bike.

meanwhile….

others; all they opened was their mouths.

I have no pride in this bike. I learn something from each and every project. If it sells, great. The $$ goes to a great cause. If it doesn’t, it will be donated to someone who will really appreciate it.

Piff 

Considering the rarity and the useful features found on this vintage tourer compared to others from back in the day (double eyelets, vertical dropouts, braze-on centerpulls) and the pretty chrome, in my opinion the prices you've given are reasonable. Just nothings moving these days. One of these popped up on the San Diego craigslist about 8 years ago and lasted barely an afternoon.

abdon 

Recently I did my part dropping $500 plus shipping on a Specialized Expedition with a bad rim (braking surface worn almost all the way through). I jumped on the ad as soon as it dropped and apparently there was a few people waiting to see if I didn't take it.

SurferRosa

You might want to reread this post by @StanSeven from a previous thread of yours:

People were about the Peugeot, the LeJeune and the Japanese frames w/dogs

bboy314

Just my opinion, but I’d remove the parts, which aren’t particularly valuable, and sell the frameset on eBay if you want that kind of money for it. Including brakes would help. I do think the brake boss repair lowers the value but again, that’s my opinion, worth exactly what you paid for it

Vintage_Cyclist

Here's two recently sold examples from the sales sub-forum.

83 Centurion Pro-tour - $225 for frame stripped to the chrome

Centurion Pro Tour 15 - $300 for entire bike

abdon 

I'm not offended by the price. The early ones are far in-between and the "irreparable" stud takes 2 minutes to repair. But they take much much much longer to move. Less than half the price of a Surly Long Haul Trucker frame and it tickles my vintage bone.

Actually I went back to double check the picture on the irreparable stud and it got repaired.

If the OP wants top money he should list it on eBay. We are kinda cheaper around here, myself included.

I wish I had seen that $300 blue one... It would have cost me another $200 in shipping so a $500 cost to me and I would have consider it worth it. To me the 70's frame is more valuable.

abdon 

Meh. It is a really pretty frame, I like to look at it wherever it pops up.

Robvolz 

good news.
Frame and parts no longer available.

Is it too early for a beer on a non-riding day?

Big shout out for the tip on drilling out the yoke on the center-pull dia-comps to fit over the studs. The plan worked perfect.

And, I laughed hardily at the "if hung by the ankles over any co-op bins, maybe you might find a pair of Dia-comp center pulls." Too funny. Brightened my day. I've metal binned hundreds of those.

New owner going to find some treats in their bike-flights box.

The Golden Boy 

Everyone is into what they're into. Campagnolo holds no sway with me, but I sorta know what the stuff is. It kind of surprises me that, working at a co-op, you don't know some of the most ubiquitous bike parts in the entire world. On the other hand, if it didn't interest me- I'd just pay enough attention to it that I vaguely needed to. On yet the other hand, it makes me wonder how much outrageously cool stuff you've binned.

fvernon

The framesets aren't far off in weight (only 90 grams, or ~3oz)--the Champion #1 and #2 tubing were the exact same except #2 is 9/6/9 TT and DT, and #1 is 8/5/8 for TT/DT. All other tubes were the same between the sets.
Champion #1: 1,960g (45g more than Columbus SL in this era)
Champion #2: 2,050g (135g less than Ishiwata 022; 245g less than Columbus SP in this era)

Some additional braze-ons (for the brakes; rear brake cable stop) and full chrome-under-paint might add a little but not that much.

The wheelset and some other component choices account for the weight--IIRC there was a common assumption that 27" tires were still easier to track down while touring in the late 70s, so they were spec'd as such. Switching to a new wheelset will really improve the weight and ride (and the braze-on Gran Compe 610s can easily handle the difference).

I rode my '79 Pro Tour to the office this morning--one of my favorite bikes for rambling around:

jPrichard10 

Yeah, kinda blows my mind. Basically all of my bike knowledge starts with the Japanese component brands of yesteryear. I thought that was the entry point for everyone, but maybe we didn't all get into bikes as poor college kids.

jPrichard10 

There was a Centurion Professional, but I haven't seen many.

Robvolz 

He is right on the kids throwing away anything with downtube shifters.

The kids don’t know Cinelli or DeRosa.

I am wrong on an hourly basis, and I to cringe at the thought of what I may have thrown away

I know so little about high, end, French and British bikes,

dbhouston 

I have an 84 that I stripped to the chrome because the paint was so bad. It was all Suntour with Sugino cranks. The only real changes I made were bar end shifters and a 6-speed freewheel, making it a Pro-Tour 18, and more recently a switch to Altus CT-91 brakes, which may not have been worth the hassle but might allow a switch to 700c if it comes to that. I use it as a town bike, but it would be good for longer trips, too.
Here's a thread of that restpration: 1984 Centurion Pro Tour 15
I'd share recent pic, but this forum still limits images to smaller sizes than modern phone cameras ... grrrr.

madpogue 

Can't that "modern" phone RESIZE the pic after it's shot? My 5-10 year old cameras and most of my 5-15 year old photo apps can.