I am working on a Raleigh International and it does not have bottle bracket mounts on the DT nor the ST
What do you all use to mount a bottle bracket?
Or do you just carry it in another pocket, What???

I grab some clamps from Velo Orange when I place an order as filler. They're on sale for a buck a pair right now.
https://velo-orange.com/collections/...tle-cage-clamp

How about these https://kingcage.com/en-ca/collectio...l-support-bolt

DMR hinged clamps. Solid and don't have shift-around tendencies like some of the other bolt-ons do.

Velo Orange sells them, but is currently out of stock. Some of the UK vendors also sell then.

Problem with these is the clamp-tightening part will interfere with your cables on the downtube. Wish they'd oriented the stud and the clamp 180 degrees from each other instead of 90.....

depends on how the cables approach the bottom bracket turn.
‘some will clear. Some won’t.

I very recently found out that there are saddlebags with bottle holders. Sort of like how time trial riders store their bottles. I believe Rock Bros makes one.

Minoura makes a cage mount that clamps to the saddle rails- I've got one on my PX-10. Takes a little getting used to, but now I like my water bottles there better than on the downtube.

These are my go to on several of my bikes. Careful application of tape on the inside of these clamps helps them not even damage the paint when in installed.

I've even swapped the provided bolt with color anodized ones from Wolf Tooth to give a better match to the bike.

Gugificazione!



Seriously, though, this is why I don't like vintage frames with good paint. I've used the Velo Orange clamps and a different version of the King Cage hose clamp. They work well enough, but I don't really like the look.

I think this is the VO clamp. Seeing it in a picture I think I must be pretty OCD to complain about it.

I got about 8 of the Velo Orange clamps a while back for a buck per. I need to find cages they will work with now.

I am not sure the VO cages will work well with their bands. Some might.

VO says on their site the current cages they offer do not work with the $1 clamps.

I've got the benefit of buying some T.A. bottle cages many years ago, so I can't say how easily available they are now.

On an International that has since left the stable, I used a T.A. Criterium cage on the down tube. It uses a single clamp, which makes it easier to avoid clamping onto the big Raleigh decal.




On my current '74 International with the pristine paint and decals, I've avoided clamping anything to the down tube. Instead, I just use a T.A. handlebar cage, along with a bottle in a jersey pocket.



Steve in Peoria

That’s what I made. I bought my Raleigh Pro in October of 2013 and did its frame up overhaul over the winter of 2013 - 2014 so I had lots of time. When it came to top tube housing clamps and bottle cage clamps, I just made them in the shop. Cut up a piece of stainless steel, bent tabs and drilled holes. SS hardware and “bob’s your uncle”. They’ve worked very well since then and look right for the era. Easy.

”way back machine”: I spent a lot of time wondering what straps to make/buy then happen to visit Browns of Beverly on Cabot St in Beverly, MA. Saw an early 70’s Raleigh 3 spd there with plain bright steel straps. “That’s what I’ll do.” Browns is long gone now. Sad.

I’m with Andy K on this. I’ve 1/2 a mind to use a Camelback 😧 when take my G.J. on a long ride.

A Rubbery Thing.

Thankfully, my L.C. Needs paint.

That's bizarre, since I've done it repeatedly with both their Moderniste and Retro cages without fail.

I use them on my International, they work great and don’t interfere with the cables.



Pro tip: The bolts that attach the cage to the clamp are a couple of threads too long and run all the way to the bottom, they could scratch the paint underneath. File them down, use slightly shorter bolts, or add a washer like I did.

I use vintage TA alloy clamps on my Peugeot. I put little strips of thin double-sided tape on the inside of the clamp and then I put little strips of butyl tube on top of that. This keeps the clamps from scratching the paint.

But ....

I'm scared for this bottle cage.

I hadn’t noticed the crack in the weld. I’ll replace the cage. I prefer the steel cage version anyway. Thanks!