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Old 11-20-23, 12:05 AM
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Unknown (Italian?) pedals

Tried searching velobase for info on these. Not a single word or logo anywhere on the pedals, even the spindles when I took them out to repack the bearings:





The pedals only marking is S and D for left and right, so I'm assuming they're Italian. Unless that was a Japanese way of giving these more "street cred" but I don't think I've seen pedals from other countries marked S and D.

Cages are Ale, so would lend more credence to these being Italian.

I need to find some dust caps for them; any good sources on unmarked caps? I can only seem to find MKS.
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Roto? I don’t recall there being much to distinguish the Italian brands other than level of quality, compared to Campy...

Gipiemme, Galli, Miche, etc...

No markings on the cage, I guess.
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Originally Posted by jPrichard10
I need to find some dust caps for them; any good sources on unmarked caps? I can only seem to find MKS.
A minute with a smooth file and they are unmarked.
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Look just like the pedals I took of the Olmo, except cleaner:



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wonder if Gruppo Rino may have produced some pedals which bore no maker's name...

from what have seen producers such as Galli, GIPIEMME, OFMEGA & MICHE always seemed to put their name on their products

OFMEGA products frequently private-labelled but at least had some form of name

at first glance wondered about the possibility of Notario but since they came OEM on an Olmo that would seem to rule out that manufacturer

does not look like anything have seen from Noli-Cattaneo

checked Rampinelli (ROTO) and their spindles carry the D & S markings on the spanner flats rather than the ends; also their spindles lack the shoulder on the spanner flats of the subject pedals

was thinking that another possibiltiy to look into might be OLIMPIC/SUPER OLIMPIC but the Olmo would seem to rule them out on the grounds of national origin

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I believe I once had some Ofmega pedals with same-diamond-shaped holes in the black cages. I wasn't a fan (crummy bearings) so might have tossed them but will take a look in my "old peddler's bin"
Pic courtesy of Velobase, maybe not a perfect match but "Ofmega Super Competizione" is close, IMO:


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I believe I once had some Ofmega pedals with same-diamond-shaped holes in the black cages. I wasn't a fan (crummy bearings) so might have tossed them but will take a look in my "old peddler's bin"
Pic courtesy of Velobase, maybe not a perfect match but "Ofmega Super Competizione" is close, IMO:

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thank you!

the shape of the cutouts in the plates is something looked for but did not find

makes good sense as the top506 Olmo had other OFMEGA bits as well


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That visually fits.

wonder when the Campagnolo toe flip tooth patent ran out?
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Originally Posted by jPrichard10
Tried searching velobase for info on these. Not a single word or logo anywhere on the pedals, even the spindles when I took them out to repack the bearings:





The pedals only marking is S and D for left and right, so I'm assuming they're Italian. Unless that was a Japanese way of giving these more "street cred" but I don't think I've seen pedals from other countries marked S and D.
The cut-outs in the cage plates look like those on Ofmega pedals I've had.

I need to find some dust caps for them; any good sources on unmarked caps? I can only seem to find MKS.
Soma sells unmarked MKS dustcaps:

https://www.somafabshop.com/shop/355...ach-3644#attr=

The tool also works on Campagnolo pedal dustcaps.:

https://www.somafabshop.com/shop/802...arch=mks#attr=
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I have a set of Ofmega-branded pedals, same steel cage, and a different aluminium body; it does NOT have a threaded end for the dustcap, instead it uses a snap-in kind.
Check that you have threads before buying threaded caps.
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I have a set of these that are identical to the ones the OP has. Mine has a plastic dust cap with the Ofmega logo but nowhere on the pedals. The cages are steel held by a rivet type of fitting from the pedal body. as does the OP's set. HTH Smiles, MH
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I have a set of Ofmega-branded pedals, same steel cage, and a different aluminium body; it does NOT have a threaded end for the dustcap, instead it uses a snap-in kind.
Check that you have threads before buying threaded caps.
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as recalled, there is a generation/model of OFMEGA pedal with a black plastic dustcap which snaps in and for removal there is a small black oxide finished allen screw in the centre

when one tightens the screw it pushes on the spindle end to pop off the dust cap


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Originally Posted by juvela
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as recalled, there is a generation/model of OFMEGA pedal with a black plastic dustcap which snaps in and for removal there is a small black oxide finished allen screw in the centre

when one tightens the screw it pushes on the spindle end to pop off the dust cap


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That's the one.

Two many problems with the design:
a) relies on the elasticity of a material which will change
b) relies on threads in an easily deformed material
c) despite a) and b) replacements are between costly and unavailable.

Their otherwise excellent and extremely light Sintesi pedals are so afflicted.
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my recollection is that this dustcap arrangement was in use approximately 1976-1983

does this line up with others memory?

pedals were of course also badged as Avocet


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Originally Posted by juvela
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as recalled, there is a generation/model of OFMEGA pedal with a black plastic dustcap which snaps in and for removal there is a small black oxide finished allen screw in the centre

when one tightens the screw it pushes on the spindle end to pop off the dust cap


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That's the Ofmega "Sintesi" pedal, also marketed in North America as Avocet Model III.

https://velobase.com/ViewComponent.a...m=109&AbsPos=6


https://velobase.com/ViewComponent.a...m=109&AbsPos=2
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thank you!

have a recollection of seeing it on other model as well but do not recall a model name/number

could of course be one o' me frequent mental lapses...


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Pictures to come, but I checked with some dust caps from other pedals. They are threaded and the SR ones didn't fit, but MKS ones did. Bought a pair of MKS dust caps and filed off the logo and they work like a charm.



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